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Porterbrook Cl.769 'Flex' trains from 319s, initially for Northern

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390112A

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I can confirm 769450 is at Allerton Depot and 769431 is still on view at Doncaster. Do we know when the first tests will take place with 450?
 

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I don’t know when it arrived but when I went past this morning it was outside by the wash, I might go past it again this evening I will try to take photo and post when I return home
 

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Here are the photos of it tried to brighten them up to see the numbers but camera was too out of focus though you can see the modifications to the undercarriage. Sorry
 

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Here are the photos of it tried to brighten them up to see the numbers but camera was too out of focus though you can see the modifications to the undercarriage. Sorry

Looks very full down there - let's hope it has adequate ventilation...
 

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I don’t know when it arrived but when I went past this morning it was outside by the wash,
I’m not surprised it’s by the carriage wash. They’ll need to get all those flies off the front from all the mainline testing it has been doing since it returned.

This project has been a joke for months. It’s now getting quite sad.
 

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Not all of them, surely?

You tell me, because nobody seems to know what's happening with this, what originally looked like a good project.
The railways and projects at the moment are worse than the secret service.
Nobody says anything. Everything running late, and no proper explanations.
A bunch of amateurs, I think.
 

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Has that 769 got it's hacked exhaust stacks (pipes)? Supposedly what all the delays been about.
I can't believe that's what all the delay is about. There surely has to be some other technical defect that's been being worked on behind the scenes for all of the people working on this project to have achieved essentially nothing in 9 months.
 

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One problem I've heard rumoured particularly with the 2 tfw examples at Canton is getting the 2 gensets to talk to each other
 

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One problem I've heard rumoured particularly with the 2 tfw examples at Canton is getting the 2 gensets to talk to each other
This was mentioned a while back - is it still a problem?

I'm beginning to thing it's something more fundamental like insufficient cooling on that tightly-packed engine raft.
 

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One problem I've heard rumoured particularly with the 2 tfw examples at Canton is getting the 2 gensets to talk to each other

Oh and i thought they were supposed to be great wizzing up and down the Great Central Railway!!

Not one turned a wheel on the mainline. Under it's own power that is.

There quite good with a loco on the front. Could we just run them like that. :D
 

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One problem I've heard rumoured particularly with the 2 tfw examples at Canton is getting the 2 gensets to talk to each other

This has been going on for so long I cannot recall if I predicted that as a difficulty or merely thought it and didn't post it.
 

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Oh and i thought they were supposed to be great wizzing up and down the Great Central Railway!!

Not one turned a wheel on the mainline. Under it's own power that is.

There quite good with a loco on the front. Could we just run them like that. :D


This man's got the answer! Attach a Class 37 to a 319 and it's bi-mode!

Can't believe this forum isn't in charge of the railways yet.
 

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This man's got the answer! Attach a Class 37 to a 319 and it's bi-mode!

Can't believe this forum isn't in charge of the railways yet.
I've got a better idea! Why not get some Class 442s, stick a Class 68 on one end and use those instead! Flawless idea! :lol:
 

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Of course this was what Southern Region did before Weymouth was electrified. Well pretty much.
 

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I've got a better idea! Why not get some Class 442s, stick a Class 68 on one end and use those instead! Flawless idea! :lol:

stop it!! You know how any mention of a plastic pig causes a feeding frenzy! Hard to disagree though ;);)
 

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Lol. :lol::lol::lol:

It only needs a single Class 20, and quite a few available again.
When driving from the 319 just isolate and shutdown the loco. Easy!

I'll write another letter to the DFT. They're bound to reply to me any day now! ;)

*hem* back on topic...any news from our dear friends at the Northern Railway Company on this subject? If they don't appear, will this scupper the ability of the people of Wigan to get to work?
 

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This man's got the answer! Attach a Class 37 to a 319 and it's bi-mode!

Can't believe this forum isn't in charge of the railways yet.
In fairness, many on here have raised very valid concerns with this project for a few years. Problems with existing cabling and ventilation for the engines have been raised. Retrofitting is often harder than simply starting from scratch.

Why Porterbrook did not convert one 319 as a prototype and test it properly - rather than just assuming it would work and converting a raft of them is beyond me. Can't see the wood for the trees.
 

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In fairness, many on here have raised very valid concerns with this project for a few years. Problems with existing cabling and ventilation for the engines have been raised. Retrofitting is often harder than simply starting from scratch.

Why Porterbrook did not convert one 319 as a prototype and test it properly - rather than just assuming it would work and converting a raft of them is beyond me. Can't see the wood for the trees.
i suspect our political masters have said to them " you will make it work" at any cost
so bypassing the usual sensible caution for new set ups:rolleyes:
 

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