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TPE Nova 1 Class 802/2 Progress

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Ben Bow

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802 201 is now stabled at the Siemens depot in York, taking the place of the 68's near the entrance gate. Two 68's are still stabled at the depot, one (020) on top of the 802, the other (019) at the end of no.1 fuel road.
 
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Sorry but them doors on an InterCity unit are just wrong (It's been said before). Should have been plug doors (too late now i know), would have looked more sleek.

It's not just aesthetics - plug doors would have been much quieter at high speeds and also cause less aerodynamic drag.
 

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Well they do work obviously and Javelin is just a commuter unit really, not an InterCity which should look the part and as @Ben Bow says. In my view!

Japanese can't build plug doors, maybe!? ;);)
The Shinkansen units, which the 80x units are derived from, have all had pocket doors. It might be the case that Hitachi (and their Japanese competitors) have had no experience building high speed units with plug doors. If the DfT had mandated plug doors as part of the IEP contract, things might be very different; it's entirely possible that Transport Scotland requested plug doors for the 385s (although that's only my personal speculation).
 

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802202 visiting Lime Street again this morning! In platform 8. The all-grey livery is very smart.
 

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Just seen 802202 twice at Huyton.
It's doing Liverpool to Liverpool via Earlstown test runs
 

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Are the 802's close to entering service considering they've now been introduced on other routes?

350's are leaving TPE now, so seems kind of pressing that they keep their fleet numbers up...
 

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Are the 802's close to entering service considering they've now been introduced on other routes?
350's are leaving TPE now, so seems kind of pressing that they keep their fleet numbers up...

I think there are only a couple of them in the UK, and they might not be complete for passenger use yet.
But hopefully they will enter service quickly when the rest of the fleet arrives.
 

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350s leaving should only be covered by 397s, not 802s.

Yes, but with the 397's not being in service, rumour is the very stretched 185 fleet will have to cover for them or cancellations will ensue. MK5A's were supposed to start on Friday, but haven't.
 

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Yes, but with the 397's not being in service, rumour is the very stretched 185 fleet will have to cover for them or cancellations will ensue. MK5A's were supposed to start on Friday, but haven't.
That's probably true. Not sure how many (if any) 185s they can afford to send that way...
 

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No they weren’t. Wibble.

I'm afraid you're the one posting wibble. Friday was a concrete plan for a Nova 3 set operate a passenger service. Another date has been chosen, but I am not at liberty to divulge, no doubt it will leak out anyway before the event.
 

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I'm afraid you're the one posting wibble. Friday was a concrete plan for a Nova 3 set operate a passenger service. Another date has been chosen, but I am not at liberty to divulge, no doubt it will leak out anyway before the event.
There was supposed to be one train I believe, not a 7 day service from that day.

At least that’s what my last info received stated.
 

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One set in service during weekdays would still be progress!

I wonder if TPE should have ordered units with 4 engines like EMR. An extra 940hp would be helpful between Manchester and Leeds.
 
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