Request Stops

themiller · 15 Aug 2019

If you look at the Northern website and look at the timetables, you can see which stations are request stops. I think that, some stations are request stops only for some trains.

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Eccles1983 · 15 Aug 2019

geoffk said:
I think Flimby is the only request stop I've used on the national network, plus a couple on the Isle of Man. I always thought that request stops in a built-up area are a bit odd - Deganwy and Burnley Barracks, for example.

I was told that, to stop a train at a request stop after dark, shine a torch on the track. Don't shine it in the driver's face and don't wave it up and down. Is there an "official" instruction anywhere?

Don't shine a torch at all. It's confusing, I'd think you had dropped something on the track and stop well short incase you decided to go after it.

The simple instruction is to indicate to the driver - standing on the platform with a raised mitt is more than sufficient, but I will stop at any request stop when someone is on the platform indicating or not.

Kite159 · 15 Aug 2019

geoffk said:
I always thought that request stops in a built-up area are a bit odd - Deganwy and Burnley Barracks, for example.

Agreed, both those stations I've never been on a train which hasn't stopped there. Deganwy is sometimes stopped at as the guard doesn't have time from Llandudno Junction to check for anybody requesting it.

I can see Burnley Barracks losing its request stop status at some point, that area around the station seems to be growing with housing

initiation · 15 Aug 2019

What's the busiest station you can leave and get a direct train to a request stop?
Do any London termini have request stop services? B New Street perhaps?

AlbertBeale · 15 Aug 2019

initiation said:
What's the busiest station you can leave and get a direct train to a request stop?
Do any London termini have request stop services? B New Street perhaps?

Since some of the Heart of Wales Line services run right through to and from Crewe, and that line has loads of request stops, then that's a possible for the busiest?

And in terms of closeness to London [an earlier question], you can certainly travel the whole HoW line on a day-trip from London, though probably only in one direction, reaching it one way round and returning to London from the other end.

geoffk · 15 Aug 2019

Kite159 said:
Agreed, both those stations I've never been on a train which hasn't stopped there. Deganwy is sometimes stopped at as the guard doesn't have time from Llandudno Junction to check for anybody requesting it.

I can see Burnley Barracks losing its request stop status at some point, that area around the station seems to be growing with housing

Also, Deganwy has a level crossing, so trains may be checked approaching the station.

splashoutradio · 15 Aug 2019

Apologies if this has been posted already, but there's a very good map of the UK's request stations, published by the Youtube Chanel 'All The Stations'. http://geofftech.co.uk/download/RequestStops.pdf

geoffk · 15 Aug 2019

splashoutradio said:
Apologies if this has been posted already, but there's a very good map of the UK's request stations, published by the Youtube Chanel 'All The Stations'. http://geofftech.co.uk/download/RequestStops.pdf

Thanks, not seen this. The list has varied over the years, with some request stops added and others reverting to compulsory stops.

oxfordray1 · 15 Aug 2019

I enjoyed my visit to Duncraig. A good walk from Plockton and a pretty station.
Also Entwhistle has a excellent pub bnext door.

Mordac · 15 Aug 2019

initiation said:
What's the busiest station you can leave and get a direct train to a request stop?
Do any London termini have request stop services? B New Street perhaps?

New street has Cambrian coast trains which serve request stops

AlbertBeale · 15 Aug 2019

Mordac said:
New street has Cambrian coast trains which serve request stops

OK - this might just about beat Crewe to HOW Line?

Mogz · 16 Aug 2019

Not near London but all intermediate stops on the Bidston-Wrexham line are request stops save for Shotton and Wrexham General.

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

AlbertBeale said:
OK - this might just about beat Crewe to HOW Line?

Holyhead to Birmingham New street or Llandudno to Manchester Picadilly all serve request stops and must be quite close contenders.

Bald Rick · 16 Aug 2019

initiation said:
What's the busiest station you can leave and get a direct train to a request stop?
Do any London termini have request stop services? B New Street perhaps?

Euston presumably. To Roy Bridge on the sleeper.

AlbertBeale · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Holyhead to Birmingham New street or Llandudno to Manchester Picadilly all serve request stops and must be quite close contenders.

This thread seems to be looking at various things now - most major station leading to a request stop, longest journey including a request stop, and so on! As for the latter, then (ignoring the sleeper) Holyhead-Birmingham must beat Llandudno-Manchester. Maybe Brum-Pwllheli is even longer though?

Llandudno · 17 Aug 2019

There are usually people boarding and/or alighting most trains at Deganwy.
I guess it is a request stop so that if there happens to be no one requiring it any late running trains can catch up a couple of minutes or so, non stop trains do rattle through the level crossing at a decent enough speed though.

I am certain that the usage figures for Deganwy are understated as there is no ticket machine and it is rare that you get your tickets checked when travelling to Llandudno. The day return train fare is around half the price of Arriva bus fare!

The other issue with Deganwy is that most advance tickets are not available from Deganwy especially on Virgin Trains, consequently most people buy tickets to/from Llandudno Junction.

The good news is that from December 2019, Deganwy will gain an all year round, roughly hourly service until 2130 plus 5 trains every Sunday in both directions to/from Blaenau Ffestiniog.

Sales pitch to forum members:
Give Deganwy Station a try, two lovely tea shops over the road and a beautiful level walk alongside the estuary to either Conwy in one direction or Llandudno in the other both taking around 45 minutes or so!

Glenn1969 · 17 Aug 2019

Caledonian Sleeper has Ardlui and Roy Bridge shown as request stops

iainbhx · 17 Aug 2019

I use Kilgetty quite frequently, the mother-in-law lives very near there, similarly Saundersfoot. I'm surprised that both Kilgetty and Narberth are request stops to be honest as both are well over 10k passengers a year.

MotCO · 17 Aug 2019

Many years ago, the Paddington train to Pembroke Dock used to have request stops at Penally and probably others. At that time it was a full blown HST. Are there are any main line trains which call at request stops now, or are they all local trains?

philthetube · 17 Aug 2019

The biggest beast I ever requested to stop was on the Flam railway in Norway, incredible the power I had in one hand.

Demetae · 18 Aug 2019

MotCO said:
Many years ago, the Paddington train to Pembroke Dock used to have request stops at Penally and probably others. At that time it was a full blown HST. Are there are any main line trains which call at request stops now, or are they all local trains?

I believe this still runs on summer Saturdays, spotted an 800 at Manorbier last weekend.

Kite159 · 18 Aug 2019

Mogz said:
Not near London but all intermediate stops on the Bidston-Wrexham line are request stops save for Shotton and Wrexham General.

The only request stop on that line is Hawarden Bridge

Bletchleyite · 18 Aug 2019

I'm going to be sticking my hand out at Llwyngwrll later on!

Glenn1969 · 18 Aug 2019

Think all intermediate Conwy Valley stations are request stops except Tal y cafn, Llanrwst and Betws y Coed. Not sure about North Llanrwst though

Esker-pades · 18 Aug 2019

Glenn1969 said:
Think all intermediate Conwy Valley stations are request stops except Tal y cafn, Llanrwst and Betws y Coed. Not sure about North Llanrwst though

Tal-y-Cafn is a request stop in the northbound direction only.
North Llanrwst is a request stop.

Jamie Price · 25 Aug 2019

Mogz said:
Not near London but all intermediate stops on the Bidston-Wrexham line are request stops save for Shotton and Wrexham General.

I don't think that's quite correct?

SussexMan · 25 Aug 2019

My son was keen to "make his intent clear" and the line down to Stratford Upon Avon seemed to be the only option if we wanted a regular train service. From memory the Suffolk ones had a very limited service.

headshot119 · 26 Aug 2019

Mogz said:
Not near London but all intermediate stops on the Bidston-Wrexham line are request stops save for Shotton and Wrexham General.

You're completely wrong I'm afraid.

Only Pont Penarlag / Hawarden Bridge is a request stop, and passengers for this station should ask the conductor on the train to arrange for the train to stop, to allow them to alight.

Old Yard Dog · 26 Aug 2019

Can Foxfield thank the wonderful Prince of Wales home brew pub opposite for its promotion from request stop to scheduled station?

Wirewiper · 26 Aug 2019

PeterY said:
Living in the South East, request stops don't exist. Just for the pleasure of using one I got on and off at Umberleigh (Devon) back in the spring. Never having used a request stop, it felt like I was getting on a bus holding my hand out.

If it was a class 143, you practically were.

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