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As is usual, I watched this weekend's edition of Click on the BBC iPlayer. Titled 'Facial Recogition' it covers recent developments in facial recognition, - not as a detached review of technical progress but a very revealing report on where and how the technology is being extended into what many would regard as very controversial areas.

The first half of the programme covered the use of facialr ecognition by the police, - the Met and the Welsh forces. In each case, members of the public unbeknown to the targets are being scanned in public places and identified with pictures on the police national database. In various trials, the technology has been found not particularly accurate, sometimes giving less than 2% correct results.

As an (ex)engineer, I generally am not phased with new technology being introduced, but find myself truly concerned with the potential for unfair treatment that the planned use of these will inevitably bring.

The second half of the programme was even more worrying, - here there were commercial companies setting up systems to identify for (pseudo)crime matters and even manipulation of customers images and personal data for commercial gain. One representative said that the data held on individuals without their consent could not be accessed by the subject without a Subject Access Request being formally submitted; that's assuming they even knew that such data was held on them!

It was obvious that these organisations regard the data as their asset, - and although not specifically mentioned, I can imagine that if allowed to continue with this data obtained without consent, it would become a tradeable commodity, further undermining both personal privacy and data security. The consequences for the general public could be very serious.

I suggest that anybody who has an interest in their privacy or data security takes 24 minutes of their time to watch the programme.
 
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Yes, this is a very big concern. I would like to see the use of such tech by everyone except the secret services outright banned.
Near the beginning of the piece, there was film of an old man who decided to hide part of his face from the cameras during a demonstration/trial somewhere in east London. He was held by police, his picture taken manually and for arguing with them, then given a £90 fine for 'disorderly conduct' for not showing his face in a public place.
 
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This country once the birthplace of democracy has almost turned into a police state. All that's missing from the George Orwell world is the camera watching us in our front rooms.
And, for the anti EU people out there we can thank the EU for throwing out the discusting May/Rudd snoopers charter which would allow the authorities to look into all our private mail and internet use.
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All that's missing from the George Orwell world is the camera watching us in our front rooms.
It's not missing. There are already cameras in all sorts of devices in most front rooms, including in mobiles, laptops and TVs. Microsoft are implementing facial recognition as a log-on method for Windows 10 https://www.computerworld.com/artic...fts-biometrics-security-system-explained.html .

At the same time cameras that view from behind a screen https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/14/...ay-phone-under-screen-selfie-camera-no-cutout (so cannot be taped over, but to be marketed as taking up no screen space) are on the way. Don't believe that the marketing people will not use these to gather info about your life style.
 
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As is usual, I watched this weekend's edition of Click on the BBC iPlayer. Titled 'Facial Recogition' it covers recent developments in facial recognition, - not as a detached review of technical progress but a very revealing report on where and how the technology is being extended into what many would regard as very controversial areas.

The first half of the programme covered the use of facialr ecognition by the police, - the Met and the Welsh forces. In each case, members of the public unbeknown to the targets are being scanned in public places and identified with pictures on the police national database. In various trials, the technology has been found not particularly accurate, sometimes giving less than 2% correct results.

As an (ex)engineer, I generally am not phased with new technology being introduced, but find myself truly concerned with the potential for unfair treatment that the planned use of these will inevitably bring.

The second half of the programme was even more worrying, - here there were commercial companies setting up systems to identify for (pseudo)crime matters and even manipulation of customers images and personal data for commercial gain. One representative said that the data held on individuals without their consent could not be accessed by the subject without a Subject Access Request being formally submitted; that's assuming they even knew that such data was held on them!

It was obvious that these organisations regard the data as their asset, - and although not specifically mentioned, I can imagine that if allowed to continue with this data obtained without consent, it would become a tradeable commodity, further undermining both personal privacy and data security. The consequences for the general public could be very serious.

I suggest that anybody who has an interest in their privacy or data security takes 24 minutes of their time to watch the programme.

Well your worst fears have come to life https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49357759

I actually sometimes go to the Alan Turing Institute for work, and wore a motorcycle helmet through the station to protect my privacy.
 

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Seems the facial thing might be laughed at in a few years time.
Latest wheeze i've heard about was some sort of DNA from breathing or any other form of body wind.
If you're over 50 don't worry, it's too late for us.
Under 50, say hello to the authoritarian state.
What was an alibi again?
Eh i was in Paris last Tuesday night.
I've 50 people that can prove it.
Yeh and you just happen to be breathing in North London at the same time.
Fair cop, Guv.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49369772
Visitors to a major shopping centre could have been scanned by facial-recognition cameras without knowing it, a civil liberties group said.

Big Brother Watch said the trial at Meadowhall in Sheffield was part of a UK-wide facial recognition "epidemic".

The shopping centre's owner said data was "deleted immediately" after the month-long police trial in 2018 ended.

The Information Commissioner said she was "deeply concerned" about the use of the technology in public spaces.


Video link is from Minority Report where Tom Cruise gets scanned and then targeted with personal advertising.

Anyone worried about their personal data or privacy should consider that they are on a forum which uses analytics to provide targeted ads. We freely give away private data to faceless companies all the time. My phone has my face and fingerprint.
 

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Sky News, a short time ago, was reporting that Mercedes cars are now tracking their movements. Can't remember where the info goes.
 
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