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59CosG95

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A brief update on the 158/159 situation:

158880 - 158886 are all SWT in and out.
158887, 158888 & 158890 all still have SWT interiors and SWR's striped livery.

159001 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB 1st class end has old SWT unit no's)
159002 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159003 - SWT interior, SWR striped livery. (NB Old SWT unit no's both ends, and 1st Class stripe is white)
159004 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159005 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB dark grey is striped vinyl, and unit no's are old SWT style at both ends)
159006 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159007 - SWT interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159008 - SWT in and out
159009 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door, and Std Class end has old SWT unit no's)
159010 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159011 - SWR interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159012 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159013 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159014 - SWR interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159015 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159016 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159017 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159018 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159019 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (Currently in Loughborough)
159020 - SWT in and out
159021 - SWT in and out
159022 - SWT in and out.
159101 - 159108 are all SWT (various shades) externally, and SWT internally.
 

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Desiro update:
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444004 (unit 30) in 8-8-19, out 17-7-19
444032 (unit 31) in 17-7-19, on hand
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450007 (unit 68) in 8-8-19, out 13-8-19
450017 (unit 69) in 12-8-19, out 19-8-19
450087 (unit 70) in 13-8-19, out 17-8-19
450072 (unit 71) in 17-8-19, on hand
450086 (unit 72) in 19-8-19, on hand
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Enjoy!
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Goldfish62

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Desiro update:
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444004 (unit 30) in 8-8-19, out 17-7-19
444032 (unit 31) in 17-7-19, on hand
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450007 (unit 68) in 8-8-19, out 13-8-19
450017 (unit 69) in 12-8-19, out 19-8-19
450087 (unit 70) in 13-8-19, out 17-8-19
450072 (unit 71) in 17-8-19, on hand
450086 (unit 72) in 19-8-19, on hand
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Enjoy!
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Thanks for the update. Based on this progress I'd say completion comfortably by the end of the year.
 

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NB: SWR Desiro refurbishment is currently being done at a slower rate due to class 442 delay

Partly refurbished 450s:

014, 026, 028, 030, 035, 036, 040, 074, 076, 099, 109, 110, and 124 (13 units)

Fully refurbished 444s:

001*, 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 013, 014, 015, 019, 020, 021, 022, 025, 027, 029, 032, 033, 034, 035, 038, 039, 040, 041, 042, 044 and 045 (32 units completed)(71% complete)

Fully refurbished 450s:

001, 002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 010, 011, 012, 013, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 024, 025, 027, 031, 032, 033, 034, 037, 038, 041, 543, 072, 073, 075, 078, 079, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 085, 086, 087, 089, 090, 091, 092, 093, 094, 095, 096, 097, 098*, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124*, 125, 126 and 127 (71 units completed)(56% complete)

*currently being done to fully refurbished state


Let me know if any more trains have been refurbished and I will edit this post regularly
 
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Dan15812

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Desiro update:
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444004 (unit 30) in 8-8-19, out 17-7-19
444032 (unit 31) in 17-7-19, on hand
.
450007 (unit 68) in 8-8-19, out 13-8-19
450017 (unit 69) in 12-8-19, out 19-8-19
450087 (unit 70) in 13-8-19, out 17-8-19
450072 (unit 71) in 17-8-19, on hand
450086 (unit 72) in 19-8-19, on hand
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Enjoy!
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Thanks for the much awaited Desiro update!
 

ABDeltic

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A brief update on the 158/159 situation:

158880 - 158886 are all SWT in and out.
158887, 158888 & 158890 all still have SWT interiors and SWR's striped livery.

159001 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB 1st class end has old SWT unit no's)
159002 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159003 - SWT interior, SWR striped livery. (NB Old SWT unit no's both ends, and 1st Class stripe is white)
159004 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159005 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB dark grey is striped vinyl, and unit no's are old SWT style at both ends)
159006 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159007 - SWT interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159008 - SWT in and out
159009 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door, and Std Class end has old SWT unit no's)
159010 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159011 - SWR interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159012 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159013 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159014 - SWR interior, SWR striped livery. (NB 1st Class stripe doesn't cover 1st Class door)
159015 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159016 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159017 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159018 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery.
159019 - SWR interior, SWR two-tone livery. (Currently in Loughborough)
159020 - SWT in and out
159021 - SWT in and out
159022 - SWT in and out.
159101 - 159108 are all SWT (various shades) externally, and SWT internally.

Thanks for this. I'm sure 159011 still has an SWT interior.
 

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It could only be SWR that nearly two years into its franchise doesn't have a train in its own livery to apply the rainbow to so has use the previous operator's livery.
Works way better than i think it would with the SWR livery just because of the way the livery is done
 

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So after the C6 has been completed at Loughborough will they be sending the diesel 158/159 units to Barton hill for the bigger refurb next year?
 

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Some Desiro activity to record today for those interested;
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444032 (unit 31) departed from Eastleigh this morning along with 450072 (unit 71) and returned to Northam.
444001 (unit 32) made its way to Eastleigh around lunchtime.
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The next 450 (unit 73) 450098, went to Eastleigh a few hours ago.
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Some Desiro activity to record today for those interested;
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444032 (unit 31) departed from Eastleigh this morning along with 450072 (unit 71) and returned to Northam.
444001 (unit 32) made its way to Eastleigh around lunchtime.
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The next 450 (unit 73) 450098, went to Eastleigh a few hours ago.
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Amazing, thanks for the update!
 

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Non-refurbished 444s:

002, 016, 017, 018, 023, 024*, 026, 028, 030, 031, 036, 037, 043 (13 units)

The other 32 444s are refurbished. (71% complete)

450s without the relocated First Class:

Units 544-570 and

004, 009, 014, 021, 022, 023, 026, 028, 029, 030, 035, 036, 039, 040, 042, 071, 074, 076, 077, 099, 107, 108, 109, 110, 116 and 118 (12 partly-refurbished)(41 non-refurbished)

The other 74 450s are fully refurbished. (57% complete)

*currently being done to fully refurbished state

Let me know if any more trains have been refurbished and I will edit this post regularly
 
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RealTrains07

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Quick question

What are the chances of catching a refurbished 159 from Southampton Central to St Denys?

How many in terms of % of the 159s are done?
 

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Quick question

What are the chances of catching a refurbished 159 from Southampton Central to St Denys?

How many in terms of % of the 159s are done?
Southampton to St Denny's is only operated by a 158 unit as of which haven't had their interiors.
However 158 (887, 888, 890) have the SWR striped livery.

Most 159/0's have the partially refreshed interior as part of the C6 Overhaul. Which operate on the west of England line.

A big diesel internal refurbishment will start next year!

Hope this helps! 8-)
 

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Southampton to St Denny's is only operated by a 158 unit as of which haven't had their interiors.
However 158 (887, 888, 890) have the SWR striped livery.

Most 159/0's have the partially refreshed interior as part of the C6 Overhaul. Which operate on the west of England line.

A big diesel internal refurbishment will start next year!

Hope this helps! 8-)
What work will that involve?

I understand first class is to be reduced with new seats but standard seats will remain?

Will those in SWT livery be repainted

For a fleet that used to have a standardised image they are currently a mess although I like the finalised SWR livery on them. Probably because the roof isn't white like a 442

The first version of the SWR units looks awfuk sl hopefully these will be redone
 

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Some Desiro activity to record today for those interested;
.
444032 (unit 31) departed from Eastleigh this morning along with 450072 (unit 71) and returned to Northam.
444001 (unit 32) made its way to Eastleigh around lunchtime.
.
The next 450 (unit 73) 450098, went to Eastleigh a few hours ago.
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Wow a much quicker 444 turnaround. Thanks for the update as always! 8-)
 

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Southampton to St Denny's is only operated by a 158 unit as of which haven't had their interiors.
However 158 (887, 888, 890) have the SWR striped livery.

Most 159/0's have the partially refreshed interior as part of the C6 Overhaul. Which operate on the west of England line.

A big diesel internal refurbishment will start next year!

Hope this helps! 8-)
Thanks, Guess i will just have to hope for a refurbished 450 as i have notice they sometimes stop at St Denys too:lol:
 

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What work will that involve?

I understand first class is to be reduced with new seats but standard seats will remain?

Will those in SWT livery be repainted

For a fleet that used to have a standardised image they are currently a mess although I like the finalised SWR livery on them. Probably because the roof isn't white like a 442

The first version of the SWR units looks awfuk sl hopefully these will be redone
Modern Railways back in January reported that everything will end up in the final version of SWR livery.
 

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Thanks, Guess i will just have to hope for a refurbished 450 as i have notice they sometimes stop at St Denys too:lol:
The Southampton Central - Portsmouth & Southsea SWR services are worked by 450s, which call at St Denys. This might explain why you sometimes see 450s at St Denys.
 

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Some more movements overnight. Unit 72 - 450086 departed from Eastleigh and was replaced by 450124 which is unit 74 in the programme.
 

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In the grand scheme of things is it significantly quicker to turn around the full refurb of one of the part refurbed sets compared to an unrefurbed set?
 

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In the grand scheme of things is it significantly quicker to turn around the full refurb of one of the part refurbed sets compared to an unrefurbed set?
I doubt theirs much difference because they both go through the same process. I wonder if all the carpet and upholstery is totally replaced on a semi-referb.
 

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I doubt theirs much difference because they both go through the same process. I wonder if all the carpet and upholstery is totally replaced on a semi-referb.
I think if a semi-refurbished 450 is being fully refurbished, the upholstery and carpets are not replaced. The non refurbished 450s need more work done (new seat covers and carpets).
 

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