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hwl

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Are there going to be further north-south routes added to Thameslink at the December timetable change?
Just Weekends and 2nd Littlehampton from memory, anything more than that needs ATO used by all services as much as possible first and there are plenty of challenges joining the remaining GN to Kents (depots, stabling, driver training).
Extra peak TL services would of course be very useful for the Kings Cross works...
 

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If the services to Maidstone/Ashford don't happen in December they'll have to change all the route map posters on the 700s, which have that route on it as from Dec 19.
 

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Only Ashford/Maidstone to Cambridge and the peak only Sevenoaks to Welwyn to add as new routes
At weekends I assume Brighton to Cambridge will go twice an hour at least on Saturdays and Horsham to Peterborough will finally start. Orpington to Kentish town as well?
 

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If the services to Maidstone/Ashford don't happen in December they'll have to change all the route map posters on the 700s, which have that route on it as from Dec 19.
Tall order to sort Ashford stabling in time - they only got planning permission a few weeks ago and the compulsory purchase is going to be a big argument to come...
 

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If the services to Maidstone/Ashford don't happen in December they'll have to change all the route map posters on the 700s, which have that route on it as from Dec 19.
It'll be easier to train the drivers up for the routes than it will to change the posters.
 

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According to the current data on realtime trains etc the only weekday changes to Thameslink branded services (apart from the odd minute here or there) are:

* Some peak Sevenoaks services get to wait at Bromley South instead of the Orpingtons. This is described in the South Eastern "consultation".
* Cambridge North <-> Kings Cross cut back to Cambridge

So no extra destinations or even the addition of the extra Littlehampton.
 

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Tall order to sort Ashford stabling in time - they only got planning permission a few weeks ago and the compulsory purchase is going to be a big argument to come...
And of course in the 2017 plans (before the extra "phasing") these were due to start running in Dec 2018 so they've been a bit slow!
 

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Just Weekends and 2nd Littlehampton from memory, anything more than that needs ATO used by all services as much as possible first and there are plenty of challenges joining the remaining GN to Kents (depots, stabling, driver training).
Extra peak TL services would of course be very useful for the Kings Cross works...
Doesn't anything more also need the Traffic Management System too? I haven't seen anything about the progress on that since early 2018 when it was behind schedule (and obviously not the priority at the time)
 
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