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My poor phrasing - four-rail in the London Underground sense.



I was a student in Bristol in the early years of Casualty (a long running popular television drama then made in Bristol m'Lud) and being location finder for Casualty must have been a serious contender for an 'easiest job in the world' award. So when they had an episode with the victim of the week being a student, the hall of residence scenes were filmed at a hall of residence, and the students union scenes at the students union.
but Bath Technical College was used for external shots of the hospital..............
 
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Yes ....I went with a friend who is in no way a train spotter. She couldn't tell a Mark 1 coach from .......well a mark 2 or a Gresley teak I don't suppose. However - when the soldiers got in to the train she was pulled right out of the story by the sight of formica panelling and a 60s style moquette. It was just obviously not 1940s decor. So the use of incorrect rolling stock in this case didn't just cause a problem for the train spotter. A bit of wood panelling and all would have been well I suspect - I thought that was poorly observed by the film makers.
they lost reality before then in some of the shots of Weymouth quay which showed post WWII buildings, most notably the theatre complex adjacent to Quay Station. From memory I think theres a shot of the linkspan as well
 

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Whatever next? They'll probably be inventing all sorts of fictional gadgets and weapons that could never exist in real life. Or gratuitously ignoring the laws of nature by showing that bears eat marmalade sandwiches. But those things are small fry compared to ignoring how train braking works, the ignorant so-and-sos...

That made me laugh, given that James Bond would be pushing 100 years old and this centurion has been played by actors of wildly differently heights, builds and appearences. I can imagine the letters that must have flooded in from the trainspotting fraternity ' dear sirs, I've noticed a significant error in the way you depicted underground braking systems worked in your recent film, this totally spoiled the otherwise realistic portrayal of a seemingly indestructible wisecracking rogue secret service agent who drinks and sleeps his way around the globe, battling sinister organised crime organisations based in underground lairs all without getting a hair out of place.'

That kind of pedantry really rips my knitting, film, tv and novels require a wilful suspension of disbelief and constantly carping on about pettyfogging details irrelevant to the plot completely ruins the enjoyment of any one else watching the film.
 
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That made me laugh, given that James Bond would be pushing 100 years old and this centurion has been played by actors of wildly differently heights, builds and appearences. I can imagine the letters that must have flooded in from the trainspotting fraternity ' dear sirs, I've noticed a significant error in the way you depicted underground braking systems worked in your recent film, this totally spoiled the otherwise realistic portrayal of a seemingly indestructible wisecracking rogue secret service agent who drinks and sleeps his way around the globe, battling sinister organised crime organisations based in underground lairs all without getting a hair out of place.'

That kind of pedantry really rips my knitting, film, tv and novels require a wilful suspension of disbelief and constantly carping on about pettyfogging details irrelevant to the plot completely ruins the enjoyment of any one else watching the film.
There is a difference between making allowances for dramatic licence and anachronisms and other mistakes that totally break the suspension of disbelief. For me it would be a double arrow on a "1940s" train, for SWMBO it would be a zip visible on the back of a dress in a costume drama.
 

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Lol,watching Arthur Daley sellimg a fake vintage painting of a horse and the jockey wearing a digital watch....timeless!
Pardon the pun. Hehehe.
Goes to show it's easily overlooked if you don't know your subject.
That's what producers hope in most instances.
 

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Lol,watching Arthur Daley sellimg a fake vintage painting of a horse and the jockey wearing a digital watch....timeless!
Pardon the pun. Hehehe.
Goes to show it's easily overlooked if you don't know your subject.
That's what producers hope in most instances.
I once had to photograph a friend in period costume for a reenactment. I carefully positioned her so that there are absolutely no anachronisms in the background. It was only when the film was developed that we both realised that she had left her watch on.
 

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Lol,watching Arthur Daley sellimg a fake vintage painting of a horse and the jockey wearing a digital watch....timeless!
Pardon the pun. Hehehe.
Goes to show it's easily overlooked if you don't know your subject.
That's what producers hope in most instances.

As it was Arthur Daley involved, I suspect that far from being overlooked by the production team, it was a deliberate inclusion...?
 

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It's not unusual to see Toronto depicting New York City for buildings & street scenes, (the tram tracks in inner city streets are a giveaway) & the TTC Subway substituting for MTA (New York). The Toronto cars are big, app. 75 ft long x 10ft wide & very recognisable if you've ever been there.
There's a Bruce Willis movie set in Washington, with scenes shot in the Montreal metro, the giveaway there being the trains colours,(blue) & the rubber-tyred trains. What else, filming in the Vienna U-bahn rather Moscow in Clint Eastwood's Firefox, the L.A. Gold line trying to impersonate an above ground Washington Metro train in the NCIS series, (set in Washington DC but filmed in L.A.)
It's not just the London Underground errors..........
 

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I was a little baffled by that one.

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I've noticed a few TV ads recently where they've obviously used a preserved railway as the rolling stock is decidedly heritage in looks. There was a recent Vodafone ad, and another one for a payday loans company. The payday loans ad showed the station too, which definitely looked like a preserved station.

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I assume the payday loans ad you're referring to is the Quickquid one filmed at Loughborough Central on the GCR? It's really funny because they've only made the slightest superficial efforts to make it look like a 'modern' station. Doesn't bother me at all, I like to think that the GCR has earned some money and it's just amusing. I think some of the posters on here are getting the wrong idea; just because 'railway nerds' observe these 'errors' doesn't necessarily mean they can't enjoy the fictional scenario or understand that most people don't give a toss. Personally I enjoy TV shows *more* when I can spot stuff like this, and I find it more interesting *because* of the errors. But maybe that's just me...
 
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Just watching Keeping up Appearances on telly.
There was,a railway station scene where Hyacinth was waiting for a train to arrive.
When it did, it was an inter city swallow liveried HST.
On the next shot,you could see clearly it was a class 47 on mk2s. Again in inter city swallow livery.
In the next scene it was back to being a HST again!

Series 4 episode 4 if anyone fancies a laugh.
 

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Not a movie, but there was a railway element in Coronation Street last night ( Friday 23rd August, second episode at 20.30 on ITV ) with scenes at a station which included a variety of rolling stock, including a pair of 195s running together. Other appearances were by 156s and 158s. Couldn't see enough of the station to identify it unfortunately.
 
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Not a movie, but there was a railway element in Coronation Street last night ( Friday 23rd August, second episode at 20.30 on ITV ) with scenes at a station which included a variety of rolling stock, including a pair of 195s running together. Other appearances were by 156s and 158s. Couldn't see enough of the station to identify it unfortunately.
Looks like Irlam to me.
http://www.thestationirlam.co.uk/gallery
 
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Can I get a prize ??

Anyone watched Peter Rabbit the movie ?? The Unit that does the Windermere Shuttle would appear to be .............. Australian. I know Nothern are short stocked but really
 

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This is from "Mother Makes Three" (1970).

Class 405/2.

Station?
Headcode 24 was used on 3 routes:
Waterloo to Shepperton
Victoria to Brighton (fast) - unlikely as they didn't use 4-SUBs on it
Charing Cross to Hayes

As the series was made in West London I'm guessing it's Shepperton. Looking at an old map I see that Shepperton had a small signal box at the end of the platform and you can it in one of the pictures. It also had some sidings on the approach.
That's my guess. Perhaps someone who knows the area has a better suggestion.
 

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Headcode 24 was used on 3 routes:
Waterloo to Shepperton
Victoria to Brighton (fast) - unlikely as they didn't use 4-SUBs on it
Charing Cross to Hayes

As the series was made in West London I'm guessing it's Shepperton. Looking at an old map I see that Shepperton had a small signal box at the end of the platform and you can it in one of the pictures. It also had some sidings on the approach.
That's my guess. Perhaps someone who knows the area has a better suggestion.

And Mother makes Three, and later five, was recorded at the THAMES studios in Teddington, so Shepperton makes sense :)
 

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I remember a great series on the BBC called Born and Bread which often featured a heritage line with steam locomotives and mk1 suburban coaches, the best thing was the station master because he reminded me of some of the railway staff I met as a kid.
 

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In the eighties there was an American series called Hardcastle and McCormick which started Brian Keith.It was set in California.
In one of the episodes a car was stuck on a level crossing with a train approaching.Various head on shots of trains were shown to build up the tension
These included among the various American trains - a BR West coast electric!
 

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For those into historic EMUs, one of those "blink and you'll miss it" moments from an old film.
CamdenRoad.jpg
I managed to capture this frame from the film "Never Let Go" (1960).
It shows an ex-LMS (1927-30) unit rounding the curve from Camden Road junction towards Kentish Town West on a Broad Street to Richmond service.
This area is currently being redeveloped.
 

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I watched a documentary about the life of the great Buster Keating and it ended with Buster taking a nostalgic train trip across Canada, interspersed with shots of Buster in the coach were views from the window, these were interesting as somehow Dumbarton Rock and the River Clyde had followed many of the Scots Emigres to Canada!
 

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For those into historic EMUs, one of those "blink and you'll miss it" moments from an old film.
View attachment 67758
I managed to capture this frame from the film "Never Let Go" (1960).
It shows an ex-LMS (1927-30) unit rounding the curve from Camden Road junction towards Kentish Town West on a Broad Street to Richmond service.
This area is currently being redeveloped.

Thanks for posting, I've ridden those units + the Oerlikon Open saloon sets back in the day.....
(My father's preferred route from Walthamstow to Windsor was 35 bus to Dalston, NL line to Richmond & a 2-NOL to Windsor Riverside.)
 

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I think an episode of the children's TV show "Come Outside" (BBC, 1993 - 1997) shows an Intercity Swallow HST in the episode "Buses", which was first transmitted on the 22nd of September 1994. A quick Google search (I'm not too good with BR dates) tells me BR was privatised between 1994 and 1997, which leads me to assume the HST shot was filmed well in advance and was stock footage the BBC just so happened to have.
A quick look through the episode later, and some sort of freight wagon is shown as well. I'll put some screenshots at the end of the post. I thought it was interesting that the HST horn sound which was played is actually a HST horn, and not some stock sound! :)
The episode doesn't say where it's set, nor does any episode in any of the three series produced, but signs in the different scenes say "Ruislip Manor" and "Uxbridge Buses".

-Peter

The HST:
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Have a look online for the episode. Well worth a watch, even for some of the shots of buses and trains!
 

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I think an episode of the children's TV show "Come Outside" (BBC, 1993 - 1997) shows an Intercity Swallow HST in the episode "Buses", which was first transmitted on the 22nd of September 1994. A quick Google search (I'm not too good with BR dates) tells me BR was privatised between 1994 and 1997, which leads me to assume the HST shot was filmed well in advance and was stock footage the BBC just so happened to have.
It could be stock footage, but Intercity swallow livery was still current in 1994, and would be for a couple of years more. The Great Western franchise (I'd assume it most likely that the footage comes from the GWML) was one of the first to commence yet that wasn't until February 1996, and the Great Western 'Merlin' livery wasn't unveiled until the end of September '96.
 
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Intercity swallow livery was still current in 1994, and would be for a couple of years more. The Great Western franchise (I'd assume it most likely that the footage comes from the GWML) was one of the first to commence yet that wasn't until February 1996, and the Great Western 'Merlin' livery wasn't unveiled until the end of September '96.
Oh OK - I assume the footage did come from the GWML. Thanks for the info about the Merlin livery. Interesting!

-Peter
 
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