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Springs Branch stabling sidings project

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Network Rail have announced today they are spending £46m to refurbish and electrify Springs Branch TMD to house 24 electric and 8 diesel trains for Northern from Dec 2019, they say work began April 9th. Finally official confirmation, they seem to have started then stalled work at Springs Branch several times over the last couple of years with vegetation clearance works of disused sidings.

Monday 23 Apr 2018

New home for trains provides jobs boost for Greater Manchester
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A new £46m train depot is to be built in Wigan as part of the Great North Rail Project.

With the number of passengers set to double in the north over the next 25 years, more depots are needed to enable the more frequent services and additional trains planned by 2020.

At Springs Branch railway sidings in Ince-in-Makerfield, Network Rail is adapting an existing freight yard to stable and maintain 24 electric and eight diesel trains – creating almost 20 jobs in the process.

The location provides easy access to the electrified rail network and the state-of-the-art depot will provide more flexibility for Northern to move their trains across the north overnight in preparation for services the next day. It will be brought into use from December 2019.

Lauren Jones, scheme project manager at Network Rail said: “At Springs Branch sidings, we’re investing £46m to enhance an existing site by the West Coast main line by building brand new train maintenance facilities for Northern.

“This brand new depot, which forms part of the Great North Rail Project, not only delivers a jobs boost for Greater Manchester, but the facilities it will provide will help transform passenger journeys across the north.”

Ben Ackroyd, Engineering Director at Northern, said: "The new maintenance depot is a key part of our wider modernisation programme.

"By 2020 we will have retired all Pacers, refurbished our entire fleet and, of course, will have introduced our brand new electric and diesel trains. We will need state-of-the-art facilities to look after these trains and Springs Branch is a key part of this."

Ben added: "We look forward to working with Network Rail on this project which is clear evidence, not only of partnership railway in action, but also of the economic benefit the railway brings to the region."

Becca Heron, director of economy and skills at Wigan Council, welcomed the news, commenting: “This new train depot is a key component of our economic strategy, building on Wigan’s excellent connectivity to establish the borough as a key transport hub for the North of England. It will bring growth and jobs to the residents of Ince and the wider borough.”

The development will see the installation of new overhead line equipment to power the electric trains. It will also include staff accommodation, train washing and fuelling capabilities.

Preparation work started on 9 April and project completion is planned for December 2019.

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Network Rail have announced today they are spending £46m to refurbish and electrify Springs Branch TMD to house 24 electric and 8 diesel trains for Northern from Dec 2019, they say work began April 9th. Finally official confirmation, they seem to have started then stalled work at Springs Branch several times over the last couple of years with vegetation clearance works of disused sidings.



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Good to see.
 

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Does this make reactivation of the former Guide Bridge depot site less likely?
Guide Bridge- Brookside and Avenue Sidings has Freightliner wagon repair shops, the on track plant depot whose name changes regularly and a lot of FLHH wagons stored. Not much room for any other sort of depot except perhaps on the site of "Liverpool Sidings"- the old loco stabling yard.
 

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Will the stabling point to the west of Wallgate station be closed and moved to Spring's Branch?
 

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Will the stabling point to the west of Wallgate station be closed and moved to Spring's Branch?

Its probably what the 8 diesels are yes, though I imagine would still be vital for turnback and layovers just not overnight stabling.
 

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Why didn't they do this a few years ago instead of building the temporary facility a few miles away at Leyland?

A bit surprised they have chosen another site west of Manchester, considering they have stabling and Blackpool and built some recently at Blackburn (not to mention Allerton), but haven't provided any more further east.
 

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The fleet in the North West is increasing in size by about a quarter (not such a large increase east of the Pennines though much replacement) so they need a lot more capacity.

Springs Branch is centrally located for many services and theres long been a small stabling facility at Wallgate a few hundred metres away that is too small (and wrong side of electrification) to be expanded while Allerton could store more but not easily deploy them. It seems to have been considered for the Blackpool cover as there was clearance works but the scale of work required for a permanent operation and timescales may have meant it was easier to do the Leyland temporary sidings.

It looks like;
* The east of Manchester depots will be focusing on east of Manchester services, heavy diesel maintenance and Leeds (you don't really want to have to move stuff through the city if you don't have too and it is a long way from some services termini) and where most diesel trains will be officially allocated
* Blackburn will be the main North West diesel stable hosting upto 30 195 and sprinters to serve the north of the region
* Allerton will be the allocation of all the 319 and 769 and a large amount of 331, primary home of electric maintenance with a small amount of diesels stabled
* Springs Branch will be the main stabling point of 769, a small diesel fleet and around a dozen 331
* Blackpool will be the catchall stabling point for diesel and electric diagrams turns starting there and the local area needed because of its remoteness

Overall it looks like Northern are moving from having small carriage sidings for overnight stabling with little to no support facilities and the bulk in a couple of large depots, to a strategy of having two main heavy maintenance centres with a few large light maintenance facilities where trains can be cleaned and fuelled and spend the majority of their time periodically returning to the main depots for more extensive work.
 
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Was there not an electrified road within the Springs Branch depot from around 1974 - it seems to have been removed some time after.
 

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Overall it looks like Northern are moving from having small carriage sidings for overnight stabling with little to no support facilities and the bulk in a couple of large depots, to a strategy of having two main heavy maintenance centres with a few large light maintenance facilities where trains can be cleaned and fuelled and spend the majority of their time periodically returning to the main depots for more extensive work.

It has long been a major weakness of Northern's operation that "proper" maintenance is concentrated in such a small number of facilities. The addition of light maintenance locations at Blackburn and Wigan, along with the upgrades to Hull's Botanic Gardens and Barrow, is very much a good thing in my view. The missing piece of the jigsaw is something better in/near Sheffield.
 

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It has long been a major weakness of Northern's operation that "proper" maintenance is concentrated in such a small number of facilities. The addition of light maintenance locations at Blackburn and Wigan, along with the upgrades to Hull's Botanic Gardens and Barrow, is very much a good thing in my view. The missing piece of the jigsaw is something better in/near Sheffield.
Haven't I heard that Sheffield is closing...or have I got that wrong?
 

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No idea what the appearance will be, as far as I can tell NR haven't been kind enough to submit a notification to planning of their intended works like they normally do.
 

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Can't believe Leyland Sidings will be decommissioned in the long term given the shortage of stabling sidings.
 

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They have to be as part of the original planning permission
Many, many companies abuse the original planning permission then apply for, and get, a retrospective change to that permission.

About time the railways started playing dirty!
 

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Went past springs branch yesterday and saw that they are well on with clearing what was the branch to Ince wagon works and the old sidings on the curve (north side of shed)
 

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Network Rail now saying the depot will be finished in September 2019 and will have 3 months of shadow operation under NR administration while Northern staff are trained before being formally commissioned and handed over to Northern Dec 2019.
 

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Went past this weekend, not a huge amount of progress. They've replaced some sections of track on the existing sidings, reclaimed some land from the earth banks enclosing the site (the depot is in a depression) to widen the amount of flat land available and have been stockpiling clean ballast.
 

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Network Rail now saying the depot will be finished in September 2019 and will have 3 months of shadow operation under NR administration while Northern staff are trained before being formally commissioned and handed over to Northern Dec 2019.
The Dec 2019 date is the same as in the quote in the OP.
(wow, no slippage in the first four months!)
 

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It was the earlier September completion date and the 3 months shadow running that was the new information.
 

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I've been passing this site on the train pretty much every day for the last several months. Lots of work obviously happening. Does anyone know anything about the project, and its progress?
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How happy are the neighbours ?

Neighbour complaints have been a constant thorn in the side if Wigans operation for years.
 

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There’s notices pinned up at various locations that it has gone live this weekend. So there may be some much needed space getting added for Northern imminently. Most of the trackwork on the Bickershaw shunt and signalling has also been redone and reinstated.
 

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1st of September against a September 2019 target date, a rail engineering project that finished bang on time rather than being late? that's a novelty these days.
 

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Why didn't they do this a few years ago instead of building the temporary facility a few miles away at Leyland?

Well for one thing Leyland was, and is, a sight nearer to Preston than Springs Branch, and the point of Leyland was to provide a stabling point for DMUs starting/finishing at Preston, while Blackpool North CMD was unavailable.
Quite apart from the geographical difference, the WCML from Springs Branch to Euxton Junction is busy enough as it is, being predominantly double track, Leyland to Preston isn't nearly so bad.
 

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the WCML from Springs Branch to Euxton Junction is busy enough as it is, being predominantly double track, Leyland to Preston isn't nearly so bad.
It's 5 or 6 tracks at Springs Branch (depending which way you look), with the depot coming off the goods lines. Geographically it's in a decent place for the electric fleet, with access to Liverpool, Manchester and up towards Preston, so sits in the middle of the west region.
 
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