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krus_aragon

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Also, Deganwy has a level crossing, so trains may be checked approaching the station.
Two level crossings, one either side. (Deganwy Quays is a few hundred metres in the Junction direction, but has far more vehicle traffic than the Deganwy crossing.)

I expect that non-stopping at Deganwy station where possible lets the barriers be raised quicker, and keeps traffic flowing.
 
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Two level crossings, one either side. (Deganwy Quays is a few hundred metres in the Junction direction, but has far more vehicle traffic than the Deganwy crossing.)

I expect that non-stopping at Deganwy station where possible lets the barriers be raised quicker, and keeps traffic flowing.

I've never realised that before - Deganwy becoming a request stop may have been a result of the quay level crossing, thank you! I don't remember exactly when it became a request stop but I'm pretty sure it was after the quay was ruined, err, I mean developed.
 

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I am certain that the usage figures for Deganwy are understated as there is no ticket machine and it is rare that you get your tickets checked when travelling to Llandudno. The day return train fare is around half the price of Arriva bus fare!

Absolutely. I've never made a Llandudno - Deganwy single journey but I've bought a lot of tickets saying I have! Although fewer than if I would have if I'd had to pay on the train - if I've got no ticket then often just getting the bus back is more convenient (and then feels less of a rip-off)
 
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Can Foxfield thank the wonderful Prince of Wales home brew pub opposite for its promotion from request stop to scheduled station?
Quite possibly. I've heard of occasions where evening drinkers intending to catch the last train have been caught at the level crossing and the train has sailed through an empty station.
 

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I've never realised that before - Deganwy becoming a request stop may have been a result of the quay level crossing, thank you! I don't remember exactly when it became a request stop but I'm pretty sure it was after the quay was ruined, err, I mean developed.
It is listed as a request stop in my 2008/09 GB timetable; that's a few years after the Quays development was finished of course.
 

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Sales pitch to forum members:
Give Deganwy Station a try, two lovely tea shops over the road and a beautiful level walk alongside the estuary to either Conwy in one direction or Llandudno in the other both taking around 45 minutes or so!
I was at Deganwy for the first time about a week before your post, and although I didn't sample the tea shops I can certainly endorse the walk. The view to Conwy makes it one of the most scenic stations in on the network.
 

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I use Kilgetty quite frequently, the mother-in-law lives very near there, similarly Saundersfoot. I'm surprised that both Kilgetty and Narberth are request stops to be honest as both are well over 10k passengers a year.
There are some request stops that produce around or more than 30K entries/exits a year! Namely Conwy, Llwyngwril, and Umberleigh.
 

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It did surprise me that Conwy was a request stop. We spent a week there last month and there wasn't a single time I saw nobody waiting when a stopping train was due. I guess it might be different in the winter, but even then how often does the guard manage to speak to everybody who gets on at Llandudno Junction to ascertain if they're travelling to Conwy?
 

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It did surprise me that Conwy was a request stop. We spent a week there last month and there wasn't a single time I saw nobody waiting when a stopping train was due. I guess it might be different in the winter, but even then how often does the guard manage to speak to everybody who gets on at Llandudno Junction to ascertain if they're travelling to Conwy?
When I got off at Conwy the other week after leaving Llandudno Junction on a fairly busy service the guard just announced that we would be calling at all request stops between Llandudno Junction and Bangor.
 

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It did surprise me that Conwy was a request stop. We spent a week there last month and there wasn't a single time I saw nobody waiting when a stopping train was due. I guess it might be different in the winter, but even then how often does the guard manage to speak to everybody who gets on at Llandudno Junction to ascertain if they're travelling to Conwy?
I suspect that guards will err on the side of caution. Plus, if they know prior to Llandudno Jn that someone wants to alight at Conwy, or if they see anyone on the platform, they'll know to stop anyway.
 

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When I got off at Conwy the other week after leaving Llandudno Junction on a fairly busy service the guard just announced that we would be calling at all request stops between Llandudno Junction and Bangor.

Which is what happens more often than not, the guard announces all request stops "WILL" be called at.

Conwy is always stopped at heading to Holyhead due to lack of time to get around everyone in the 3 minutes it takes and most of the time heading to Llandudno Junction as mentioned ealrier due to the infrequency of stopping trains there is almost always at least one person for each service even in deepest darkest winter.
 

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Last year, when I stuck my arm out to stop the train at Conwy, I needn't have bothered. About 80 people got off :D
 
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