Ze Random One
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Thameslink Sevenoaks services are often diverted via Orpington if there are delays.
This can recover 10-15 minutes.
This can recover 10-15 minutes.
Liverpool to Manchester (Cheshire Lines) services can and have been diverted over the Chat Moss route.
West coast services can be diverted in the Glasgow area - via Kings Park which avoids Rutherglen and via Holytown which avoids Motherwell.
LM/LNR trains south of Rugby to Euston can skip the Northampton loop if delayed too far. It probably happens more now the services often start from Liverpool/Rugeley.
I doubt there’s many, if any, passenger drivers who sign the route that way, nor would it be justified for the relatively tiny probability of a problem occurring on the relatively short section between Hazel Grove and Edgeley. Diverting via Romiley is the normal way out of it, with plenty of options to get passengers to/from Stockport.Here's one...supposing there is a signal failure at Hazel Grove, blocking both lines whatever the cause. Would trains arriving from the Disley Tunnel route take the original route via Cheadle Heath and then reverse at Northenden Junction in order to access Stockport?
Unlikely to run via Kings Park if late as WCML is quicker, although would do so if any blockages on the WCML via Rutherglen. Out of interest someone might know which drivers know that diversionary route - is it only Glasgow drivers or do Preston drivers sign it too?
Late services to/from Dumbarton Central, Balloch and Helensburgh may on occasion divert via Yoker or Singer when late if path lost on own booked route.
As happened this evening when a train broke down at Cathays.Often happens on the Cardiff Valley Lines if there is a problem or congestion which sees trains between Radyr and Cardiff Central and vice versa that should run via Llandaf diverted via the City Line.
Stone is the one station which loses out - there are XC services between Stafford and Stoke, while EMT offer an alternative for stations from Stoke to Crewe inclusive. That's why I mentioned in another thread that Stone must have the UK's Worst Train Service. Rugeley Town may top it but the difference is that it's not the only station serving Rugeley.Doesn't LM serve Stone once an hour in each direction? Are passengers at the station forced to wait for another hour if LM service skips that station?
Never experienced this, sounds like fun!If there are problems at Oxford/on the Cotswold Line - or a train has been badly delayed leaving London or Hereford and will hamper the paths of other services on single-line sections of the Cotswold Line - services between Worcester and London are sometimes diverted to run non-stop between Reading and Worcester via Swindon, Stroud and Cheltenham.
These miss out stops at Oxford and various stations between there and Worcester Shrub Hill, depending on the calling pattern of the service in question, but some diverted trains have been known to make a special stop at Didcot Parkway to allow Oxford passengers to change trains there, if this can be done without delaying other services.
There was one that did that, in the early evening IIRC, a couple of weeks ago. If it was the same one, it was due to a points failure at Sheet Stores Jn., no normal detection in the facing points, so no access towards Derby.The other week an XC service from Nottingham ran directly from Beeston to Willington via the Donington route (apparently as a result of a points failure, so I don't know whether it was to make up time or because it had no choice). Passengers for Derby were instructed to leap across to a northbound service at Burton, which arrived simultaneously. Those already at Derby presumably had to catch a later train.
Yes, that was the one. Thinking about it, it would have been the Bank Holiday Monday. It was shown as running a few minutes late at Willington but turned up more or less on time.There was one that did that, in the early evening IIRC, a couple of weeks ago. If it was the same one, it was due to a points failure at Sheet Stores Jn., no normal detection in the facing points, so no access towards Derby.
Virgin Euston-Birmingham-Scotland operate via the Trent Valley instead of Birmingham to make up time.
And Ely via the West Curve.
If you mean the Trent Valley, it is usually more. A Glasgow covers the Rugby Stafford in 28m whereas a train via Brum takes about 75mAm I correct in guessing it would save about 30 minutes?