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Network Rail selling 170 tonnes of unwanted electrfication masts

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Moderator note: split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/windermere-line-electrification-progress.191705/

Only a couple of hundred more supports needed and someone can start hanging wires from them.

How about these? :smile:

https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1169280188930281472

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Seems that Network Rail has no need for these electrification masts and booms. It’s selling by tender 170 tonnes of them from Newport.
 
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Trouble is you don't want any more of that gigantic GW Series 1 kit installed anywhere else.
Windermere isn't going to host 140mph multiple-pantograph trains anytime soon.
The same low-profile kit as used at Oxenholme for the northern WCML in 1974 will do fine, or that used on the Paisley Canal branch in Scotland.
 

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Trouble is you don't want any more of that gigantic GW Series 1 kit installed anywhere else.
Windermere isn't going to host 140mph multiple-pantograph trains anytime soon.
The same low-profile kit as used at Oxenholme for the northern WCML in 1974 will do fine, or that used on the Paisley Canal branch in Scotland.
UK Master Series would be my likely bet - that covers the best of Series 1 & Series 2 (mainly S2) along with various Mk3, UK1 (from WCRM), GEFF (Great Eastern Furrer+Frey) and SICAT (Siemens Catenary; as used on the Larkhall branch) assemblies.

Most structures on the WCML were 152x152 UC steel sections, now largely out of favour for higher speeds and higher, independent tensioning arrangements (12kN/15kN for modern equipment); the UKMS range certainly doesn't specify them as standard sections anymore.
203x203 UC sections are now the smallest sections, and are used on most single track structures. I believe they'll most likely form the majority of structures on the Lakes Line if it *officially* goes ahead. With its lower speed, I wouldn't be surprised if they go for a lower tension value in the C&C too (11kN in each).
 

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Looking at the GWML 170 tonnes is probably only a handful of gantries!
 

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Just a thought, (I’m no expert on these matters so I could be talking rubbish) but why not keep them and use them to shore up some of the more unreliable sections of the ECML...
 

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The cursed Grayling seems to be able to melt steel to destroy it

These bits and bobs should be around to complete the electrification.

Cursed be his name.
 

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How much does anyone want to bet that as soon as they've sold all of this off and it has gone, the Cardiff to Swansea bit will get re-approved...?
 

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How much does anyone want to bet that as soon as they've sold all of this off and it has gone, the Cardiff to Swansea bit will get re-approved...?

What about Chippenham-Bath-Bristol-Filton? They are still potentially going ahead aren't they (unless NR know something we don't)
 

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This is the massive stuff though. Be better to use less hideous stuff on any future electronification
 

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Reminds me of a story I heard from around the time of rail privatisation. Railtrack sold off a load of bespoke geometry switches and crossings thinking it didn't need the stock, only to have to buy it back at several times the sale price to complete a track renewal scheme. Someone made a lot of money from it.
 

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Could these be used for something such as Didcot - Oxford?

I have no knowledge on the specifics of this.

-Peter
 

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Hold on, before everyone comes up with a plan to find these a home, does anyone know why they are selling them?

They may be deemed not suitable for use anymore
 

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Hold on, before everyone comes up with a plan to find these a home, does anyone know why they are selling them?

They may be deemed not suitable for use anymore
... and it’s still a lot less than the 1000 tonnes of scrap that was being discussed in early 2018. So it could also just be a bit more of the same, or a much more accurate figure than the original estimate.

Bit of a mountain out of a molehill I reckon...
 
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