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Can't really think of any reason to get off at any of the stops unless you needed to. Could go and watch Leyton Orient at home is the best I can suggest.
Islineclear3_1
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Its a nice trundle along what used to be a quiet north London backwater but from my recent experiences, the line is very busy. There isn't anything of interest to get off anywhere so I would just do it for haulage
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Agreed, it doesn't go anywhere particularly attractive or worth visiting in its own right, but it's an interesting line to travel on if you haven't used it before.
A bit different to the days when you got a 104 every hour, and the stations were all vandalized and covered in weeds!
Islineclear3_1
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I have a vague recollection of either a 104 or 108 and a signalbox and semaphore signals at Leytonstone High Road
Until recent times of course when 172s ruled...
Until recent times of course when 172s ruled...
IanD
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I'd get off at Gospel Oak and take a walk on Hampstead Heath. If you like pubs and/or real ale, one of my top ten London pubs, The Southampton Arms, is a 5/10 minute walk away. Also, The Dartmouth Arms is not too far away, still a good pub but a bit less cosy since they remodelled it.
Blackhorse Road is close to Walthamstow Wetlands nature reserve.
Crouch Hill is a good access point for the Parkland Walk nature reserve ie the footpath along the old Finsbury Park to Highgate railway line.
Not much else really.
Blackhorse Road is close to Walthamstow Wetlands nature reserve.
Crouch Hill is a good access point for the Parkland Walk nature reserve ie the footpath along the old Finsbury Park to Highgate railway line.
Not much else really.
Islineclear3_1
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As far as has been reported, the GOBLIN is now 100% Class 710s but beware of the usual disclaimers and engineering work...
How does this offer actually work?
Obviously any journey solely between Gospel Oak and Barking including at intermediate stations is free.
If you travel from Hampstead Heath to Barking, where the off peak fare is £1.50 do you a) get refunded £1.50 as the fare from Gospel Oak to Barking or b) get no refund because the fare from Hampstead Heath to Gospel Oak is £1.50 and the refund is only for the additional cost of the Gospel Oak to Barking element.
If you make sufficient journeys on the Gospel Oak to Barking line at the start of the day to reach the daily cap, do you get refunded for a full 1-4 day cap even if you then travel all day in the rest of London.
Anyway, today's units from Gospel Oak
1520 710263
1535 710266
1550 710262
1605 710265
1620 710267
1635 710269
Obviously any journey solely between Gospel Oak and Barking including at intermediate stations is free.
If you travel from Hampstead Heath to Barking, where the off peak fare is £1.50 do you a) get refunded £1.50 as the fare from Gospel Oak to Barking or b) get no refund because the fare from Hampstead Heath to Gospel Oak is £1.50 and the refund is only for the additional cost of the Gospel Oak to Barking element.
If you make sufficient journeys on the Gospel Oak to Barking line at the start of the day to reach the daily cap, do you get refunded for a full 1-4 day cap even if you then travel all day in the rest of London.
Anyway, today's units from Gospel Oak
1520 710263
1535 710266
1550 710262
1605 710265
1620 710267
1635 710269
So as a worked example I travelled
1) Camden Road to South Tottenham (via pink reader at Gospel Oak) £1.50
2) South Tottenham to Barking £1.50
3) Barking to Woodgrange Park £1.50
4) Woodgrange Park to Victoria (via pink reader at Blackhorse Road) £2.80
There is presumably no question that journeys 2 and 3 will be refunded. Do I get anything refunded for journeys 1 and 4? I guess I find out in two weeks time.
1) Camden Road to South Tottenham (via pink reader at Gospel Oak) £1.50
2) South Tottenham to Barking £1.50
3) Barking to Woodgrange Park £1.50
4) Woodgrange Park to Victoria (via pink reader at Blackhorse Road) £2.80
There is presumably no question that journeys 2 and 3 will be refunded. Do I get anything refunded for journeys 1 and 4? I guess I find out in two weeks time.
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Anyone know what the loadings are like now it's up to 4-car trains at 4tph?
Fairly quiet most of the time.
Hi Jonathan; did you receive any refunds yet? I've also been trying a number of routes (since 2nd Sept) but seen no indication of any refunds yet, either in my TfL online account or on my credit card (I use a contactless card). It is quite frustrating not understanding how the refund system will work during this period!
No, not yet. It does seem very vague. They said two weeks before it came through, didn't they.
Yes; for both Oyster (other than Travelcards valid for longer than one month) and Contactless TfL say:
This will normally take up to two weeks after you've travelled
I was hoping that the up to inferred that it would likely not take that long!
OK I have a refund, dated 6 September, but confusingly posted 14 September. I got £1.70 back for any journey that included any segment on the Goblin (I was travelling at peak times).
e.g. South Tottenham[Goblin]Wanstead Park[Out of Station Interchange]Forest Gate[TfL Rail]Stratford[Jubilee]Canary Wharf
Cost of this: £1.70, refund received: £1.70
Between the start of the free period until 6th September I had five journeys which included a segment on the Goblin. All of these commenced during peak time. Cost was 5x£1.70 and I received £8.50 (=5x£1.70)
Credit card statement shows:
06 Sep 19 TFL GOODWILL TFL.GOV.UK/CP -£8.50
Doing Business As
TRANSPORT FOR
SE10 0ES UNITED KINGDOM OF GB AND NI 0203.054.5306
Date Processed: 14 Sep 19
TfL online account shows:
06/09/2019 +£8.50*
*A refund was given for the following reason: Unplanned CPC Refund +£8.5
Still to be answered is how much you get back if your journey cost is more than the fare of the Goblin segment of the journey only.
e.g. South Tottenham[Goblin]Wanstead Park[Out of Station Interchange]Forest Gate[TfL Rail]Stratford[Jubilee]Canary Wharf
Cost of this: £1.70, refund received: £1.70
Between the start of the free period until 6th September I had five journeys which included a segment on the Goblin. All of these commenced during peak time. Cost was 5x£1.70 and I received £8.50 (=5x£1.70)
Credit card statement shows:
06 Sep 19 TFL GOODWILL TFL.GOV.UK/CP -£8.50
Doing Business As
TRANSPORT FOR
SE10 0ES UNITED KINGDOM OF GB AND NI 0203.054.5306
Date Processed: 14 Sep 19
TfL online account shows:
06/09/2019 +£8.50*
*A refund was given for the following reason: Unplanned CPC Refund +£8.5
Still to be answered is how much you get back if your journey cost is more than the fare of the Goblin segment of the journey only.
LondonJohn
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So I got a refund email today but it only included 3 journeys from the same day, 2 full and one capped. From reading this would have expected refund for the 5 different journeys I’d done on the same day if they were done in batches.
Phoned the TFL OYSTERCARD helpdesk and First Lady was clueless. Saying this wasn’t for the GOBLIN refunds then said you only got refunds for each full journey you complete. Then said they don’t deal with it. Promised a call back from team leader.
Team leader also clueless stating as it was an automated process they had nothing to do with it and hence knew nothing about it but followed through the TFL guidance and my journey history and processed a gesture of goodwill refund for the 5 journeys. He also said that the stated refund would be there as well if I were to collect it but that’s from a nominated station that I no longer use anymore.
Very helpful team leader advised he would get information and issue a briefing to the contact centre to enable them to deal with queries as it seems the emails have started to go out with refund details over the last few days. Team leader hadn’t had any other queries regarding this.
Phoned the TFL OYSTERCARD helpdesk and First Lady was clueless. Saying this wasn’t for the GOBLIN refunds then said you only got refunds for each full journey you complete. Then said they don’t deal with it. Promised a call back from team leader.
Team leader also clueless stating as it was an automated process they had nothing to do with it and hence knew nothing about it but followed through the TFL guidance and my journey history and processed a gesture of goodwill refund for the 5 journeys. He also said that the stated refund would be there as well if I were to collect it but that’s from a nominated station that I no longer use anymore.
Very helpful team leader advised he would get information and issue a briefing to the contact centre to enable them to deal with queries as it seems the emails have started to go out with refund details over the last few days. Team leader hadn’t had any other queries regarding this.
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