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Skegness home signals

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Colin1501

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On a recent visit to Skegness, I noticed that both the inner and outer home signals were single arm semaphores, with no sign of any form of route indicator fitted. So my question is, how do drivers know which platform they are routed into?
 
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They probably accept that we siggies are in charge and they WILL do what they are told. :D:D;)
 

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Aren't there only two platforms at Skegness which are still usable (or remain in use)?

All the others appear to be semi derelict, sadly, with no prospect of them being used again.
I don't think there will ever be excursions to Skeggy anymore!
 

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Aren't there only two platforms at Skegness which are still usable (or remain in use)?

All the others appear to be semi derelict, sadly, with no prospect of them being used again.
I don't think there will ever be excursions to Skeggy anymore!

Even if this is the case, it would surely be normal signalling practice to have some means of indicating to the driver which of the two the train is routed into.
 

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I think railtours can still go to Skeggy but the station can only handle one at a time

Until the advent of colour light signalling there weren't any route indicators as such so there must be a system in place by which the driver would know which platform to expect
 

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I think railtours can still go to Skeggy but the station can only handle one at a time

Until the advent of colour light signalling there weren't any route indicators as such so there must be a system in place by which the driver would know which platform to expect
You just had multiple signals as at a junction.
 

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I think railtours can still go to Skeggy but the station can only handle one at a time

Until the advent of colour light signalling there weren't any route indicators as such so there must be a system in place by which the driver would know which platform to expect

Route indicators were commonplace with semaphore signals, either a mechanical version capable of displaying letters or numbers, or a 'theatre' type with the characters displayed by clusters of lights. They were frequently used at terminal stations rather than having a separate arm for each platform. I think there's still one at Lowestoft. Of course, if only one platform is useable at Skegness, then there will be no need for an indicator now, but this can't always have been the case.
 

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Aren't there only two platforms at Skegness which are still usable (or remain in use)?

All the others appear to be semi derelict, sadly, with no prospect of them being used again.
I don't think there will ever be excursions to Skeggy anymore!

I took one the the HST`s last Saturday and had a look at which platforms were still in use. I do not remember the numbers of the platforms but to my eyes there seems to be 4 platforms where rails were "shiny" if that means anything ?
 

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I think railtours can still go to Skeggy but the station can only handle one at a time

Until the advent of colour light signalling there weren't any route indicators as such so there must be a system in place by which the driver would know which platform to expect

If the speeds and distances into both platforms are low and exactly the same....why does it matter if the driver has no route indication?
 

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If the speeds and distances into both platforms are low and exactly the same....why does it matter if the driver has no route indication?

10 mph limit in the station approach and all platforms.
 

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The driver has no route indication and there's 4 platforms in use, numbers 2-5. 6 and 7 are officially abandoned. It's just 10mph for all routes. Platform roads aren't track circuited, only the station throat. It's a vintage anachronism in the modern world.

Platform 2 is contingency use only due to the poor surface and lack of lighting, usually used by track machines etc. Platforms 3 and 4 are the usual platforms though 3 has had issues with drainage etc. 5 is daytime only due to no lighting.
 

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The driver has no route indication and there's 4 platforms in use, numbers 2-5. 6 and 7 are officially abandoned. It's just 10mph for all routes. Platform roads aren't track circuited, only the station throat. It's a vintage anachronism in the modern world.

Platform 2 is contingency use only due to the poor surface and lack of lighting, usually used by track machines etc. Platforms 3 and 4 are the usual platforms though 3 has had issues with drainage etc. 5 is daytime only due to no lighting.

Is Skegness still unusual in being one of the very few locations without identification plates on the signals and no official cabin code?

There’s only a small handful of such locations nowadays, Buxton being another IIRC.
 

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Is Skegness still unusual in being one of the very few locations without identification plates on the signals and no official cabin code?

There’s only a small handful of such locations nowadays, Buxton being another IIRC.

I may be wrong as I'm long past looking for little detaile but I think the down outer home might be plated with a S prefix. I'll have a look next time I'm heading out of there.
 

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I may be wrong as I'm long past looking for little detaile but I think the down outer home might be plated with a S prefix. I'll have a look next time I'm heading out of there.

Thanks.

It was certainly the case when I was last there (a few years now) that none of the signals were numbered on the ground. A real nod to the past. Evidently things might have changed.

Certainly many of the unplated signals on the Peterborough - Leicester route have gained them in recent years, places like Whissendine.

As regards route indications, the Victoria Line didn’t have these at most locations with the original 1960s signalling, although the current signalling does. The TBTC lines (Jubilee and Northern) have no route indication to the driver. He does have an indication of the ultimate destination, but no knowledge of details like which platform. First he knows is when the train takes the route!
 

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Thanks.

It was certainly the case when I was last there (a few years now) that none of the signals were numbered on the ground. A real nod to the past. Evidently things might have changed.

Certainly many of the unplated signals on the Peterborough - Leicester route have gained them in recent years, places like Whissendine.

I'm fairly sure the thing that made me notice is that it is and was the only one so plated.
 

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Aren't Platforms 3 and 4 the only ones with a canopy between them?
 

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The driver has no route indication and there's 4 platforms in use, numbers 2-5. 6 and 7 are officially abandoned. It's just 10mph for all routes. Platform roads aren't track circuited, only the station throat. It's a vintage anachronism in the modern world.

Platform 2 is contingency use only due to the poor surface and lack of lighting, usually used by track machines etc. Platforms 3 and 4 are the usual platforms though 3 has had issues with drainage etc. 5 is daytime only due to no lighting.

Thanks for the clear explanation. Lack of route indication into terminal platforms must be pretty unusual.
 
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