TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
They were not fit for service so returned.buses 33732 / 69171 and 69224 have returned from lease to Diamond bus north west not sure where they are now
They were not fit for service so returned.buses 33732 / 69171 and 69224 have returned from lease to Diamond bus north west not sure where they are now
They were not fit for service so returned.
They were not fit for service so returned.
Bedum tish!!Like the majority of First's fleet then
Of course, there could be an agreement for buses with major work needing done being sent back rather than Rotala having to fork out for the work to be done.
Where did it call go wrong: How long was that woman kept in that job?
Which one? The bus driver?Where did it call go wrong: How long was that woman kept in that job?
Disciple? I’ve been quite clear on my views on First Bus, Moir, the Laidlaw purchase etc and it’s not favourable.FB bit off much more than they could chew, then in the struggle to make ends meet focused entirely on efficiency (some will justify it out of necessity) but uncontrolled, which meant the interests of the company rather than (instead of as well as) the interests of the passengers. The consequence was that over time the whole thing became a charade.
You can't mimic the real thing. Something the marketing industry never learned. We (and not just First Bus) are still facing the consequences, everywhere.
Of course some bits may have been lucky enough to, more or less, escape the charade but it's the exception that proves the rule.
"We all know where it went wrong... Nothing to be gained from rehashing the argument." Spoken like a true disciple.
Where did it call go wrong: How long was that woman kept in that job?
It made me cringeI must be of a minority which liked this advert
Has it been explained why First has been cut into 3? Scotland, North and South? Do we know who is in which group yet? However would it not have been better to have 3 areas in England?
South West: Cornwall, Dorset, somerset, Bristol, Worcester and south Wales.
South East: South coast, Berkshire, Essex, Leicester, Norfolk,
North: Yorkshire, York, Manchester
Cost cutting.Has it been explained why First has been cut into 3? Scotland, North and South? Do we know who is in which group yet? However would it not have been better to have 3 areas in England?
South West: Cornwall, Dorset, somerset, Bristol, Worcester and south Wales.
South East: South coast, Berkshire, Essex, Leicester, Norfolk,
North: Yorkshire, York, Manchester
No, however still dont know where it's been placed in the current set up!
Also does the new two English and Wales operate now cover senior management?
I doubt it has much to do with managing the business. More to do with disposing of it.No, however still dont know where it's been placed in the current set up!
Also does the new two English and Wales operate now cover senior management?
FirstGroup bus business set for buyouts from its managers
FirstGroup put its entire UK bus arm up for sale earlier this year CREDIT: PA/FIRSTGROUP
Oliver Gill
15 SEPTEMBER 2019 • 6:00AM
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Embattled transport operator FirstGroup is poised to offload part of its bus business to its own managers amid mounting industry concern of a shake-up by politicians.
A string of management buyouts are said to be the frontrunners vying for First’s bus operations in Bristol, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall. A similar swoop by managers is also being pulled together in East Anglia.
First put its entire UK bus arm up for sale earlier this year alongside North American coach arm Greyhound, following pressure from its biggest shareholders.
The largest of these, activist Coast Capital Management, launched a campaign over the summer to oust half of the board. While Coast failed to attract majority shareholder support, First’s chairman and two other directors would later step down.
Some investors want the company to also exit UK rail and concentrate on more profitable operations in the US.
FirstGroup’s plans to put its UK bus operations on the market were revealed after the earlier sale of part of its sprawling Manchester operation to rival Go-Ahead.
The bus industry remains fearful of tighter regulation across major cities. Manchester mayor Andy Burnham has already announced plans to run bus services using a franchise model. Others considering similar plans include Liverpool, Sheffield, Cambridge and Peterborough.
As a result, one industry source said: “No-one has much enthusiasm for buying bus companies.”
A FirstGroup spokesman said: “As we have stated, there are a number of potential outcomes for the separation of First Bus from the group and we are currently pursuing these options.
“Although we do not comment on market rumours or speculation, it would be incorrect at this stage to say any one outcome is more likely than another.”
Does that mean First will still be around in Bristol Dorset Cornwall.