You offer a better deal to someone who says that they're thinking of leaving, not after they've already decided to go.I'm surprised the EU havent offered us a better deal to stay in.
You offer a better deal to someone who says that they're thinking of leaving, not after they've already decided to go.I'm surprised the EU havent offered us a better deal to stay in.
If it becomes clear (after Parliament resumes on the 14th of next month) that the Prime Minister doesn't intend to carry out the will of Parliament (as laid out in the act passed), then I suspect that would be the time for the opposition to table and support a motion of no confidence in the Government.Things are getting more ridiculous by the day. The BoJoBot is threatening to veto any extension offered by the EU, whilst also threatening not to ask for one despite him being required to by law if no deal is reached by October 19th. Worse still he is now threatening to not send a new commissioner if we stay beyond October in an effort to shut the EU down. Quite literally he is throwing the toys out of the pram, smashing up the family china, and trying to set fire to the neighbour's house to get what he wants.
Someone has to stop this bloody idiot before he really does some damage!
If it becomes clear (after Parliament resumes on the 14th of next month) that the Prime Minister doesn't intend to carry out the will of Parliament (as laid out in the act passed), then I suspect that would be the time for the opposition to table and support a motion of no confidence in the Government.
With time running very short (by then), the minds of various opposition parties may be focused enough to agree to support an alternative Prime Minister and Government in order to get someone who will go and request the extension.
Latest indications coming from the likes of Macron and Verhofstadt indicate that an extension will only get approved with confirmation of a general election, approval of the existing May deal, a new referendum or revocation of A50. Simply asking for an extension probably won’t cut the mustard. What looked like a Lab / Lib / SNP / Plaid masterstroke last week may completely backfire.
But then again, who knows for certain? The last few months have seen more plot twists than during all eight seasons of Game of Thrones combined.
Latest indications coming from the likes of Macron and Verhofstadt indicate that an extension will only get approved with confirmation of a general election, approval of the existing May deal, a new referendum or revocation of A50. Simply asking for an extension probably won’t cut the mustard. What looked like a Lab / Lib / SNP / Plaid masterstroke last week may completely backfire.
But then again, who knows for certain? The last few months have seen more plot twists than during all eight seasons of Game of Thrones combined.
So the question would be, if none of the caveats are met, where does this leave the government who will legally be committed to not seeing through a no deal scenario?
David Cameron should be frogmarched back into 10 Downing St and told to sort out the mess that HE created with his bloody referendum.
So the question would be, if none of the caveats are met, where does this leave the government who will legally be committed to not seeing through a no deal scenario?
I'm not so concerned about the checks and measures, as the fact that despite becoming so despotic so quickly, people are still rallying around the BoJoBot like he is some kind of savour of democracy, when it is totally obvious that he and his old school network chums don't give one jot. Its a similar way to which the odious sub-human Farage does, lots of shouting and sabre rattling about sovereignty and democracy, but actually just trying to rework the system to feather their own nests further.
Could that be because, like it or not, Johnson is reflecting quite a heavy body of public opinion?
Could that be because, like it or not, Johnson is reflecting quite a heavy body of public opinion?
There is a large and growing number of people who will never trying to keep us in tje EU and if we leave fight to get us back in as soon as possible.The more this goes on, the more the populace will support his position. The vibe I’ve picked up over the last couple of days certainly supports this.
Stuff like Dominic Grieve appearing on tv throwing insults around will no doubt be furthering this. Any Conservative MP who stood on the 2017 manifesto is on rather thin ice IMO, even in a remain constituency.
But, seriously, this last week has really made a mockery of our politics. The serving prime minister threatened with prison?! It’s simply ridiculous.
Thankfully your not in charge. Your compassion for others is astounding.I really dislike the notion that the policy should be dictated by
1) An area whose population makes up only a very small proportion of the UK's population
and
2) The threat of violence.
There doesn't seem to be appetite for ROI having a special status within the EU, and neither does there seem to be appetite for NI having a special status within the UK. With this being the case, quite simply a hard border becomes the default position.
Source. Or is this pulled out of thin air.think around 30-40% of the uk population are willing to accept no deal
Thankfully your not in charge. Your compassion for others is astounding.
From the extreme end of the pro-Brexit faction too.Likewise the notion “if we don’t get our own way then violence will happen” never being far away.
There is a large and growing number of people who will never trying to keep us in tje EU and if we leave fight to get us back in as soon as possible.
These people may want it over but this is the beginning of years of a fight if we leave the EU.
Leaves fought for years to get us into this mess. Why on earth do you think we this who want to be in the EU are going to go quietly.
Source. Or is this pulled out of thin air.
David Cameron should be frogmarched back into 10 Downing St and told to sort out the mess that HE created with his bloody referendum.
I don’t see what’s discompassionate about advocating NI/ROI to have border arrangements like many other countries around the world happily have, in the absence of being able to come up with a solution that someone or other doesn’t object to - which is pretty typical of NI politics. Likewise the notion “if we don’t get our own way then violence will happen” never being far away.
Things are getting more ridiculous by the day. The BoJoBot is threatening to veto any extension offered by the EU, whilst also threatening not to ask for one despite him being required to by law if no deal is reached by October 19th. Worse still he is now threatening to not send a new commissioner if we stay beyond October in an effort to shut the EU down. !
Latest indications coming from the likes of Macron and Verhofstadt indicate that an extension will only get approved with confirmation of a general election, approval of the existing May deal, a new referendum or revocation of A50. Simply asking for an extension probably won’t cut the mustard.
Do you have any sources for those claims?
BBC News is reporting the latter.
It's not what I want, for one.Is this really what people want?
Do you have any sources for those claims?