• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

What is the largest place in the UK with absolutely no public transport at all?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Baxenden Bank

Established Member
Joined
23 Oct 2013
Messages
4,017
We need some rules!
But the OP, with his single post ever has not returned!
Are we talking largest population un-served or largest geographical area un-served?
How far away from a bus stop do you have to be to be un-served?

Geographically, large areas of the Peak District falling in Staffordshire now have no bus service - either side of the Leek to Buxton or Ashbourne to Leek to Macclesfield routes. Populations of those smallholdings soon add-up to a reasonable number - but they will all have private transport of some kind available.

In terms of villages, or groups of villages, in my part of Staffordshire alone the following have all lost their several times per day bus service in the last few years: Forsbrook & Dilhorne (ex D & G 31), Oakmaoor & Alton (ex First 32A), Milwich, Hilderstone, Fulford, Moddershall, Saverley Green, Cresswell & Draycott (ex D & G 12).

Many rural areas of Shropshire are now un-served following the withdrawal of market-day type services and then the withdrawal of the dial-a-bus that replaced them. This is the case throughout the country.

In urban areas there can be large areas un-served nowadays. Stoke-on-Trent / The Potteries is rapidly turning in baldy-man country with a few thin strands scraped across the thinning head. Parkhall: 205 buses per weekday in 2013, 12 per day from next week!
 
Last edited:
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

AlbertBeale

Established Member
Joined
16 Jun 2019
Messages
2,749
Location
London
Are there any places where due to objections from the original landowners no public transport is permitted.

In London, the famous Clapham Omnibus - of "man on the..." fame (now bus route 88) - goes along Great Smith Street and Marsham Street, rather than the perhaps more obvious route along Millbank, because (according to legend) the House of Lords didn't want noisy public transport going past ... perhaps it was once part of the tram system and hence would have been a bit noisy...
 

Statto

Established Member
Joined
8 Feb 2011
Messages
3,217
Location
At home or at the pub
Are there any places where due to objections from the original landowners no public transport is permitted.

Not so much landowners but residents of Port Sunlight, a couple of years ago Stagecoach diverted the 2 & 38 through Port Sunlight via Primrose Hill, Central Road, Church Drive & Bolton Road to New Chester Road, locals objected to buses going through a heritage area, traditional route in Port Sunlight was via Greendale Road to Wood Street, Stagecoach subsequently diverted the 2 via Bolton Road & Greendale Road, & 38 through New Ferry & New Chester Road.

The changes weekend just gone, with the 2 cut to Ellesmere Port-Chester, so buses circumnavigate around via Bebington Road, Boundary Road & New Chester Road, Port Sunlight population of 1,450 doesn't have a bus service.
 

Jordan Adam

Established Member
Joined
12 Sep 2017
Messages
5,529
Location
Aberdeen
Drayton Bassett population: 1037. Doesn't have any form of transport from what I can see.

Having checked there's a once per week service to Tamworth. Additionally it's only a mile away from a 15 minute frequency service, so it's debatable if that would count.
 

Jordan Adam

Established Member
Joined
12 Sep 2017
Messages
5,529
Location
Aberdeen

NorthOxonian

Established Member
Associate Staff
Buses & Coaches
Joined
5 Jul 2018
Messages
1,487
Location
Oxford/Newcastle
Bitterley Village in Shropshire, is another place I found to be quite poorly served. Might only be just over a mile to the nearest bus service (292). But from what I recall it was a long walk along narrow roads, with no predestrian footpaths.

Ardley is in a similar boat. I remember once trying to get there, but the nearest bus service is in Middleton Stoney, which is a three mile hike away. I say hike because you have the choice of badly signposted footpaths (including a gate over the Chiltern Mainline and going right behind a quarry), or a long walk along a road with no footpaths and national speed limit.
 

geoffk

Established Member
Joined
4 Aug 2010
Messages
3,251
Maybe some former industrial villages in Co. Durham, Waskerley for example.
 
Joined
11 Jan 2015
Messages
686
Never any trams along Millbank in central London. They did come over Westminster Bridge and turn right. I suspect the rumour may just be that as the 77 group at various times went along Millbank. The 3 will have had to wait until Lambeth Bridge got rebuilt in the 1930s.
 
Joined
11 Sep 2012
Messages
748
Location
uk
Kings Cliffe, Northamptonshire, population(2011) 1,202. Was linked by bus at one time to Peterborough, Oundle & Stamford on Weekdays. Now Call Connect only.
 

urpert

Member
Joined
1 Dec 2015
Messages
1,164
Location
Essendine or between Étaples and Rang-du-Fliers
Are there any residential streets in Greater London with no bus, no rail and no tube service within a mile ?
Another poster has already mentioned the Grange Road area which is particularly poorly served by public transport. I read once that the survival of the X68 was largely due to this area’s inaccessibility by rail.

Biggin Hill has plenty of buses but is significantly cut off from the rest of the London transport system.
 

PeterC

Established Member
Joined
29 Sep 2014
Messages
4,086
Are there any residential streets in Greater London with no bus, no rail and no tube service within a mile ?
One or two on the periphery. The 174 has long since been cut back from the old Pentowan terminus in Noak Hill leaving a handful of houses over a mile from the nearest bus stop by road and maybe just under walking across the fields (scale is difficult to check using Google Maps on a phone)
 

Shimbleshanks

Member
Joined
2 Jan 2012
Messages
1,020
Location
Purley
Island of Sark? Theres a couple of ferries to the island but once you are on it there is no public transport (or motor vehicles other than tractors) whatsoever, even private aircraft are banned.

Must be a couple of larger islands in similar situation.
Hmmm..debatable. Quite apart from the fact that the ferry links to Guernsey are timetabled public transport, when I visited there was a trailer pulled by a tractor from the harbour to the town at the top of the hill. Not sure if any public service was available beyond there to Sark's other urban hubs, though there certainly were tractors running about the place.
Perhaps a better candidate would be the nearby island of Brecqhou, owned by the reclusive Barclay brothers who famously discourage all visitors and which are definitely not on any scheuled boat route. Even when the Barclays and family aren't in residence, a few caretakers and the like must live in the place.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top