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Some strange route allocations in Bath this afternoon. 32280/84 on X39, 37764 branded for X39 on 172, 44553 on D3, 44526 on 3A, 44907 on 20, 47448 on 4.
53819 was on the 3. There was quite a long queue for Foxhill, the considerate driver was obviously determined not to leave anyone behind and left with about 15 standing.
36234 parked in the bus station looked quite ridiculous still carrying full frontal Leeds Pulse branding.
37764 went dead to Wells this morning to work 0748 173.
36234 was taken off the 3 to do an additional to Peasedown and back due to the A367 closure this afternoon.
 
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Unlimited travel on First buses for one day, including metrobus but excluding Airport Flyer services. Valid until 4.29am the following day
The FirstNight ticket was extended when the fares changed on 21 July, it’s now valid from 19:00 until 07:00 the following day.
 

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Few weird and wacky things on bustimes. Allegedly, a Bath B7LA artic (10169) worked an 0739 X7 to Nailsea from Bristol on 5th and 6th Sep which seems rather unlikely (for so many reasons - not least there not being a journey at 0739).

Also,30945 did a single X1 on 11th Aug but nothing since whilst 30936 seems to do very odd journeys.
 
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Few weird and wacky things on bustimes. Allegedly, a Bath B7LA artic (10169) worked an 0739 X7 to Nailsea from Bristol on 5th and 6th Sep which seems rather unlikely (for so many reasons - not least there not being a journey at 0739).

Also,30945 did a single X1 on 11th Aug but nothing since whilst 30936 seems to do very odd journeys.

Yes, and apparently 39005 in Bath was on a 3A last night!
 

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Bus times.org is a very useful tool, I use it quite a lot. But it is far from accurate, today trainer 66992 is shown as operating on the WSM 7.
Anything that looks unusual is almost certainly wrong.
 

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Fleet numbers on bus times is taken from the ticket machine. Incorrectly registered ticket machine will give incorrect data
 

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Suffice to say that if they're B7TLs, chances are they are 54 plates and rather careworn like the other ones.
Looks like you were right.
More arrivals (some still awaited again) from Scotland and heading to Hengrove are



32620 SF54TLU u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32622 SF54TLY u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32623 SF54TLZ u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32681 SN55HFJ u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32683 SN55HFL u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
37185 SF07FDX u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
Credits due to Steve Whites excellent site.
 

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Steve White telling us six B7TLs 32620/2/3/81/3 37185 arrived from Scotland and 47451-3/5-7 gone the other way.
 

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Looks like you were right.
More arrivals (some still awaited again) from Scotland and heading to Hengrove are



32620 SF54TLU u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32622 SF54TLY u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32623 SF54TLZ u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32681 SN55HFJ u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
32683 SN55HFL u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
37185 SF07FDX u Vo B7TL 10.7M Wt H45/29F
Credits due to Steve Whites excellent site.

There's a few other 55 and 07 plates that might also be in the frame to come down, as well as more 54 plates, I might suggest.

So as regards the Streetlites.... There were originally 47435-65 (31), 47544-71 (18) and 63068-78 (11) so 60 in total. Of these, 47458-65 originally went to Glasgow. 47549/50 then went to Scotland East, with 47546-8 to Wales. Latterly 47449/54 went (now joined by 47451-3/5-7) and 47560/2-4. So 26 have gone and you'd expect that the Maxes will be gone at the weekend with possibly a few more standard ones.

Appreciate that the move to deckers has been driven by increased patronage (and some rowing back of frequencies) so requiring deckers to be drafted in plus there's a large batch of new deckers due in the new year but the age profile of the fleet has gone very middle aged (and older).
 

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There's a few other 55 and 07 plates that might also be in the frame to come down, as well as more 54 plates, I might suggest.

So as regards the Streetlites.... There were originally 47435-65 (31), 47544-71 (18) and 63068-78 (11) so 60 in total. Of these, 47458-65 originally went to Glasgow. 47549/50 then went to Scotland East, with 47546-8 to Wales. Latterly 47449/54 went (now joined by 47451-3/5-7) and 47560/2-4. So 26 have gone and you'd expect that the Maxes will be gone at the weekend with possibly a few more standard ones.

Appreciate that the move to deckers has been driven by increased patronage (and some rowing back of frequencies) so requiring deckers to be drafted in plus there's a large batch of new deckers due in the new year but the age profile of the fleet has gone very middle aged (and older).
That's why when the new buses come next year I expect a lot of the older fleet to go for scrap! (Well those ALX400's just keep on going some how)
 

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That's why when the new buses come next year I expect a lot of the older fleet to go for scrap! (Well those ALX400's just keep on going some how)
With 77 new vehicles arriving, you would expect that to happen. Also, it would be expected that some Q busters would head off. Mind you, when you see some getting painted for the 3/4 and 33158/32006 for Coaster, you wonder if they'll ever go ;)

Might be a case that it won't be all the very oldest vehicles replaced but some being used for mid life cascades as well as the dross.
 

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With 77 new vehicles arriving, you would expect that to happen. Also, it would be expected that some Q busters would head off. Mind you, when you see some getting painted for the 3/4 and 33158/32006 for Coaster, you wonder if they'll ever go ;)

Might be a case that it won't be all the very oldest vehicles replaced but some being used for mid life cascades as well as the dross.
I'm surprised they haven't painted a few ALX400's for the 5, to replace the darts.
 

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Does anyone know if Hengrove Depot have 37183 because it showed up on the tracker today on route 76 but or does Hengrove Depot have 37183 aswell as 37185.
 

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I'm surprised they haven't painted a few ALX400's for the 5, to replace the darts.

To be fair, doesn’t need to be converted.

Does anyone know if Hengrove Depot have 37183 because it showed up on the tracker today on route 76 but or does Hengrove Depot have 37183 aswell as 37185.

37183 has arrived instead of 32683 according to Steve White.
 

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To be fair, doesn’t need to be converted.



37183 has arrived instead of 32683 according to Steve White.
I quite often see at least 1 double decker on it. I thought the West of England policy was if the route could physically handle double deckers that it would be upgraded when there were the resources.
 

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I quite often see at least 1 double decker on it. I thought the West of England policy was if the route could physically handle double deckers that it would be upgraded when there were the resources.

Think that's the point. If they have the resources. The 5 doesn't need deckers - I've been on it in peak and whilst a Dart gets a bit full, it doesn't need any larger. However, a decker can substitute for a single if they need to and yes, I've been on one of the former Bath P&R Geminis on there. The 96 is similar where singles often work it as do deckers depending what's available. There have been rumours about the Darts being replaced at various times and it did seem that their days were numbered at one point but they're still there.

With the 24 being converted, it leaves very few routes needing single deckers - think the Bath 5, the 126 (overhanging buildings in Axbridge?) and the D1 (as full height deckers can't fit under the 14'0 bridge at Wilton) are the ones that still exist.

Just seen 36228 only 36231 to arrive now

Been suggested that's why the two Streetlites have remained in Bath. 47448 was parked up in the bus station last night. One of the ex Leeds B9s was having a trip out to Chippenham last night too.
 

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With the 24 being converted, it leaves very few routes needing single deckers - think the Bath 5, the 126 (overhanging buildings in Axbridge?) and the D1 (as full height deckers can't fit under the 14'0 bridge at Wilton) are the ones that still exist.
I think you can now add the 37 to that list, as I believe the bridge at Bitton station is now out of bounds to double-deckers?
 

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That's why when the new buses come next year I expect a lot of the older fleet to go for scrap! (Well those ALX400's just keep on going some how)

Good workhorses those ALX400's, First (in general) should retain them for a Queue Buster / Private Hire / rail replacement / events fleet. Then when there's events such as the Bristol Balloon Fiesta, Harbour Festival, Christmas Markets or even Leeds Festival, the 400's can be put to good use.
 

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