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Pakenhamtrain
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Our programs are match specific for the Ashes. It has match recaps from the last tests.
Im sure the player articles are the same for each though.
Chances are they do them in similar vein to the AFL record. All 9 games have the same content except the match specific stuff in the middle and the occasional special front cover.
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England 191-8, so halfway there, lads 
Xenophon PCDGS
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England 191-8, so halfway there, lads
Overton and Leach building a mini-stand of 23, then Leach dismissed for 12 with the score at 196-9.
Broad in at number 11.
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stantheman
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Should have been 5 0 to us if it wasn’t for these Australians
Seriously their bowlers ar3 far too good , as I predicted
God help us down under and please replace Joe Root with s good batsman
Seriously their bowlers ar3 far too good , as I predicted
God help us down under and please replace Joe Root with s good batsman
Yep well played Australia. Some good bowling and a batting line up that just isn't up to the task has cost us dearly here. Though really these could easily be called Smith's Ashes as he's been the difference. Without his innings at Edgbaston that may well have gone our way (or been a draw) and his innings here was 100% the key to Australia's victory.
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No, replace Root as captain and drop him to his preferred position, no. 4. Then get a pair of opening batsmen, and a no. 3, that might see Root coming in when at least 20 overs have been bowled and there's at least 60 on the board. Root has been enormously let down by the vastly overrated Trevor Bayliss and the eccentric selections of Ed Smith and co.
Pakenhamtrain
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Cut it a bit fine. A win is a win though.
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I think you're being a bit hard on your team there: IF they hadn't declared their first innings and IF they'd been able to enforce the follow on then it would probably have occurred sooner. A composite best team from the two sides might only include four England players.
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They were talking on TMS about if you could choose, would you pick a World Cup win or an Ashes victory.
The obvious answer to that question, is why not both ?
It seems to me the England management did make a choice at the beginning of 2019 and chose to concentrate on the World Cup, because England going into the Ashes series looked woefully under-prepared for the the long form of the game and still in party mode after the World Cup triumph.
Bayliss and Smith have to carry the can for the Ashes defeat because the team hasn't looked right from the first Test. Losing Anderson was a big blow but some of the selections, such as county No 5 Roy opening the batting, did not make sense.
The many dropped catches also showed a team under-prepared and not working properly.
Root needs to go back to No 4 and preferably be replaced as captain.
The obvious answer to that question, is why not both ?
It seems to me the England management did make a choice at the beginning of 2019 and chose to concentrate on the World Cup, because England going into the Ashes series looked woefully under-prepared for the the long form of the game and still in party mode after the World Cup triumph.
Bayliss and Smith have to carry the can for the Ashes defeat because the team hasn't looked right from the first Test. Losing Anderson was a big blow but some of the selections, such as county No 5 Roy opening the batting, did not make sense.
The many dropped catches also showed a team under-prepared and not working properly.
Root needs to go back to No 4 and preferably be replaced as captain.
Pakenhamtrain
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I doubt we would have enforced the follow on. Lyon bowled way to straight. The moment he put it outside off things happened.
Bit of bravery involved bowling Labuschagne
https://www.news.com.au/sport/crick...h/news-story/1a06053740aeff67bd096660ba012d56
This coming from someone whose lasting legacy is bowling a ball to second slip.
Only if it was Stokes the offensive batsman, Stokes the nightwatchman, Stokes the fielder and Stokes the bowler.
DarloRich
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The ECB focused on the World Cup not just this year but since the terrible performance in the last world cup. Bayliss has improved the white ball team no end. Sadly, the focus on red ball cricket has been lacking and we are seeing the result of that in this series: The test team came into the Ashes series woefully under prepared and lacking focus with a less than settled line up, some odd selections and especially at the top of the order, a lack of quality and application.
England let Australia get away, again, by being poor in both 1st innings.
He is a cheat and should not be playing. Needs to be said. Warner can play because he is rubbish. And a cheat.
( and it REALLY annoys me that such a great player allowed a culture of systematic cheating to build up in his team. He CLEARLY doesn't need to cheat FFS!)
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Having rechecked, only pages 1 (the cover), 3-5 and 7-9 differed between the Edgbaston and Old Trafford issues. The other 93 pages (2, 6, 10-100) were identical.
Unfortunately I am one of those sad people who have to buy a programme for every game I go to, football, cricket, RL, RU, ice hockey, basketball or whatever (unless the same programme is used for two or more matches) - so I did feel a bit cheated. My house is now seriously overstuffed. So I'm quite relieved I only have to buy scorecards for county championship and one-day cup matches - but feel obliged to fill these in, even though I would never deface a football programme. Am I one of the few people left who still fill in scorecards?
DarloRich
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I do when i go as used to be a scorer for my club ( when i wasn't playing) but I only record the highlights now. No ball by ball recording these days
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Pakenhamtrain
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In AFL records I have two big boxes full of every game I've been too. I've gone to about 250 games of footy in the last 10 odd years
I gave up trying to fill in the scores years ago!
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Burns, Root, Stokes and Broad or Archer, depending on the pitch and their mood on the first morning! Case for Bairstow rather than Paine, but Wade might be first choice keeper. Second thoughts, delete Broad as all the Aussie tailenders would score more runs than him these days.
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If we're having a fantasy team Broad would be in, he has been excellent, never mind that he doesn't score many runs these days. Paine not Bairstow, and Paine would be captain anyway. Bairstow shouldn't even be in the England team , Foakes is a better 'keeper and Bairstow suffers from the same problem as Roy (together with a big ego)
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One version of my team would, actually, accord pretty well with yours, perhaps with Paine as non-playing captain, so a XII really! I'm all for Foakes too, and I don't understand why Sam Curran hasn't played.
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Sir Geoffrey Boycott and Sir Andrew Strauss are two of Theresa May's beneficiaries in her resignation Honours List. If you accept the principle of Honours, then I wouldn't disagree with those two choices.
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Arise Sir Geoffrey (and not before time!)
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He won't be "sir" round these parts!
As for the Ashes, how much different would it have been if Sir James Anderson had bowled in all the games at his average?
I wouldn't have thought it would have made any difference. Not when you consider that none of our openers were likely to have capitalised on it.
DarloRich
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*cough* unfortunate incident & conviction with former partner *cough*
Interviewed by Martha Kearney on Radio 4, in response to criticism from the Chief Exec of Women's Aid, he said "I don't give a toss about her, love."
In a weird coincidence, I don't give a toss about Geoffrey Boycott. Spooky!
DarloRich
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that is hardly a suprise ( either way lol)
Pakenhamtrain
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Australia have won the toss and will be bowling first.
Cue meet rack.
Cue meet rack.
DarloRich
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Denley gone for 14. Poor shot, pushing away from his body. Nearly survived as Smith juggled the catch several times.