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Worked the following yesterday: 1236/1640/1806/2040 Yarmouth & return
1458 Lowestoft & return
2205 Lowestoft, ECS back.
 
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Only 1 x 170 departing the Anglia Region for pastures new tomorrow, seems 270 likes it here so much, it's staying on for a bit :)
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They could do with keeping all the 170's. A 153 ended up doing Norwich to Cambridge yesterday. Not much fun to be on. Neither was the 2-car 156 that was losing time. yes there was a level crossing issue. But despite that it was dropping time on every station to station section. Rubbish!
 
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According to Rail magazine deputy editor - Richard Clinninck - there is no chance of the Class 720s being introduced into service this year.
 
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Railperf said:
According to Rail magazine deputy editor - Richard Clinninck - there is no chance of the Class 720s being introduced into service this year.
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I'm sure I predicted that several months ago! Not looking good for 755s either. Have they even started crew training for the Stansted route?
 
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Railperf said:
According to Rail magazine deputy editor - Richard Clinninck - there is no chance of the Class 720s being introduced into service this year.
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I can believe that. There's no sign of one coming down here yet is there? Between the local testing and driver training that needs to take place, I suspect, as per the 710s, they're about exactly a year behind schedule, so let's say February.

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I'm sure I predicted that several months ago! Not looking good for 755s either. Have they even started crew training for the Stansted route?
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Do you mean 745s? 755s are already in operation, albeit not on every route yet.
Given that there are some 745s here and tests have been taking place, I think Clinnick's other comment about them is probably also fairly accurate. If he reckons 4-8 weeks, then I think late November / early December is likely in practice, presumably just one or two sets taking some of the workload off the LHCS sets and reducing shortforms. No real service transformation will take place until next year, and it will probably be 2020 before any of the Stansted services start using them.
 
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As I've said elsewhere it's a bad day on Greater Anglia. If our MPs weren't so busy protecting their careers and bank accounts under the pretence of "Protecting our Sovereignty" the escalating crisis on the railways may have been addressed. Everything is falling apart, it takes 5 weeks to get a GP consultation in my town, by our MP spends his days retweeting dubious "news" articles from alt-right media outlets and has stopped trying to give the appearance that he is representing anything but his own tax status and off-shore bank accounts. Sorry, that's been a long time brewing-up and I claim OP privilege. I'm livid in so many ways.
 
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Wivenswold said:
As I've said elsewhere it's a bad day on Greater Anglia. If our MPs weren't so busy protecting their careers and bank accounts under the pretence of "Protecting our Sovereignty" the escalating crisis on the railways may have been addressed. Everything is falling apart, it takes 5 weeks to get a GP consultation in my town, by our MP spends his days retweeting dubious "news" articles from alt-right media outlets and has stopped trying to give the appearance that he is representing anything but his own tax status and off-shore bank accounts. Sorry, that's been a long time brewing-up and I claim OP privilege. I'm livid in so many ways.
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The way that the country's economy has worsened (and will continue to worsen) since 2016 should have no impact on the franchise though, as the terms for it were set back when it was awarded. Are there situations where financial hardship has caused any of the franchise requirements to be broken? (Other than, of course, the introduction dates of new stock which isn't really a financial problem, at least not by cause)
 
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I can believe that. There's no sign of one coming down here yet is there? Between the local testing and driver training that needs to take place, I suspect, as per the 710s, they're about exactly a year behind schedule, so let's say February.


Do you mean 745s?
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Yes apologies for the typo, I did mean 745s. How many train crew depots work Norwich to Liverpool Street and Liverpool Street to Stansted?
 
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Railperf said:
According to Rail magazine deputy editor - Richard Clinninck - there is no chance of the Class 720s being introduced into service this year.
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Am I right in thinking it is the 720s that will displace the 360s to work the Corbys?

Electric services to Corby are due to start December 2020... Can this still be achieved in theory? I'm wondering how long it would take to do the 360 upgrade and for the crews to gain route/traction knowledge - once a 720 has actually entered service!
 
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Am I right in thinking it is the 720s that will displace the 360s to work the Corbys?

Electric services to Corby are due to start December 2020... Can this still be achieved in theory? I'm wondering how long it would take to do the 360 upgrade and for the crews to gain route/traction knowledge - once a 720 has actually entered service!
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Yes, with the temporary exception granted to run 321s past the PRM deadline, the 360s will be among the first units to go off-lease, after the oldest 317s. If enough 720s are in service to replace them by June 2020, 5-6 months should hopefully be enough to tidy them up and perform the requisite tests and driver training. It will be tight, but it should be doable unless the 720s are delayed any further, which of course is entirely possible.
 
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Yes apologies for the typo, I did mean 745s. How many train crew depots work Norwich to Liverpool Street and Liverpool Street to Stansted?
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On the East side Liverpool St (ex-Anglia) Ipswich & Norwich work the IC services on the GEML. Not exactly sure which depots sign Stansted but I'm guessing Stortford & Cambridge for sure.
 
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[Assuming it runs] it seems that the second 170 will be 'gone west' on Sunday (08/09).
Slight route change from the delivery last week, via ECML/Grantham/Nottingham vice Oakham, via Bristol Parkway/Severn Tunnel vice Lydney and ending up at Cardiff Canton Sidings Gbrf.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K62168/2019/09/08/advanced
FRGT 0914 Norwich C.Pt. T.&R.S.M.D to Cardiff Canton Sdgs Gbrf
Runs on 8th September 2019
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With a second unit due to be on its way there are currently no Felixstowe services today and most of the additional Great Yarmouth services have been cancelled.

It could be a difficult a leaf fall season.
 
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Bad day on the locals, probably best to use alternative transport where possible.

Another 170 has gone and with other units being unavaliable as well mass cancellations are the result.

09:47 Cambridge to Ipswich due 11:02
10:28 Felixstowe to Ipswich due 10:54
10:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 11:20
10:58 Ipswich to Felixstowe due 11:24
11:06 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 11:41
11:20 Ipswich to Cambridge due 12:40
11:28 Felixstowe to Ipswich due 11:54
11:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 12:15
11:57 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 12:40
11:58 Ipswich to Felixstowe due 12:24
12:28 Felixstowe to Ipswich due 12:54
12:47 Cambridge to Ipswich due 14:02
12:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 13:17
12:58 Ipswich to Felixstowe due 13:24
13:06 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 13:40
13:28 Felixstowe to Ipswich due 13:54
13:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 14:15
13:57 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 14:41
13:58 Ipswich to Felixstowe due 14:24
14:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 15:20
15:15 Norwich to Great Yarmouth due 15:42
15:47 Great Yarmouth to Norwich due 16:19
 
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Have just seen 170270 in the low level sidings behind 755422, I assume 270 is the next 170 to leave. Any idea as to which 170 is not in action causing the above cancellations.
 
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Bikeman78 said:
Yes apologies for the typo, I did mean 745s. How many train crew depots work Norwich to Liverpool Street and Liverpool Street to Stansted?
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On the East side Liverpool St (ex-Anglia) Ipswich & Norwich work the IC services on the GEML. Not exactly sure which depots sign Stansted but I'm guessing Stortford & Cambridge for sure.
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And Liverpool Street West - is the rump of the old Chingford depot.
 
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