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60096 scheduled to move light from Immingham TMD to Rossington Colliery tomorrow to form 6Z60 to Willesden ready for Angerstein Wharf on tuesday

Photo on WNXX today just about showing Cappagh DCR 60046 in the shed undergoing its Super60
 
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6Z41 departed Angerstein Wharf tonight operating to Scunthorpe Roxby Gullet rather than Rossington Colliery
 
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6Z41 made it to Scunthorpe alright last night but some problems with the return 6Z48 today, shown on RTT as a 76 late departure from Roxby Gullet and cancelled at Scunthorpe Trent Junction 211 late, presumably either a failure of 60096 or a wagon fault unless there's some form of infrastructure problem
 
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From wiser and better informed sources it seems that 60096 deposited its coolant on the track last night, subsequently this evenings 6Z40 & 6Z41 don't appear to be running north
 
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I've been trying to find exactly what the Super 60 upgrade consists of but not having much luck as both terms as generic, does anyone have a good link?

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Sorry that I never seem to be able to link with my chromebook, if you type "Making the Class 60s 'super' again" into google that should take you to the *Railway Magazine article of September 2013, which I believe is the most comprehensive article on the Super60 upgrade, there is also a link to an RMweb discussion thread


* edit, make that Rail Magazine not Railway
 
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After wednesdays failure of 60096 6Z48 was rescued by DBC 60010 to Doncaster Down Decoy, 56091 & 56103 went light to Doncaster from Chaddesden on thursday and then took 6Z57 to Willesden F Sidings

6Z40 1034 Willesden F Sdgs to Angerstein Wharf and 6Z41 1858 Angerstein Wharf to Willesden DC Rail Sdgs both ran today with 56091 & 56103 although an 0Z50 1305 Willesden DC to Leicester LIP also ran, things could get a bit dicey without the return of 60096 or a replacement
 
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Some movement today but whether 60096 has been involved I don't know, 6Z35 0540 Willesden DC Sdgs to Scunthorpe Roxby Gullet ran this morning followed by 6Z36 1600 Scunthorpe RG to Barnetby Down Rec Sdgs then 0Z56 Barnetby DRS to Immingham TMD and 0Z57 return, these were run with 56091 & 56103
 
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60096 went through York today at approx 1430 heading south with what looked like a cement (?) train, first time I have seen a 'super 60'!
 
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60096 went through York today at approx 1430 heading south with what looked like a cement (?) train, first time I have seen a 'super 60'!
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There was 6H70 Tyne Coal Terminal to Drax through York at 1445 which, if that's the right one, would seem to mean that it was either out on test or the hire to DCR has finished
 
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60096 went through York at around 1920 last night as I was walking back to the car park when it rumbled south with what I guess was the return journey of the above
 
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No Angerstein job this evening while 60096 is back at GBRf working Tyne - Drax, 6Z56 1330 Barnetby to Willesden F Sdgs is scheduled for tomorrow possibly with 50008 which has been in Doncaster with RailVac move 6X50 from Long Marston
 
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6Z56 ran from Barnetby to Willesden on wednesday with 56091 & 56103, it's been confirmed that the hire of 60096 from GBRf has now ended and as there seems to be a temporary break to the Carlisle to Boston work the 56s will probably be working the Angerstein job for now

Thursday saw 0Z56 & 0Z57 from Willlesden to Acton and return before 6Z40 to Angerstein Wharf and 6Z41 to Rossington when right time at Harringay turned into 219 late at Alexandra Palace thanks to a possession, the booked engine move to Barnetby was cancelled and replaced with a move to Immingham TMD instead, which was then terminated at Barnetby ....


.... finally making it to Immingham TMD this (saturday) evening
 
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Changes to the Angerstein job for this week, at least, with the empties coming down from Rossington to Willesden yesterday and then on to Angerstein today for 6Z41 back to Rossington this evening rather than the normal tuesday/thursday, the 56s seem to be in charge

Slightly off the point but interesting for the future, DC Rail are currently advertising for qualified applicants to fill vacancies for an Operations Standards Manager, a Driver Standards Manager, an Operations Manager and a Standards & Training Manager
 
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Yes, just now waiting for the 56s to come past me here in south london.
 
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The booked 6Z56 Rossington to Willesden was cancelled this morning and replaced by 6Z57 to Chaddesden with 56091 & 56103, which had spent the weekend in Doncaster West Yard, then running to Leicester LIP, there don't appear to be any services currently scheduled for this week
 
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With the 56s seemingly at Leicester until next tuesday a DCR operated move took place today with HNRC 20096 & 20107 being returned to traffic and running light from Barrow Hill to Chaddesden to collect some wagons, as it turned out they ended up going back to Barrow Hill wagonless but a nice trip out for them
 
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I've found out today that DCR have obtained a spoil job in the Stoke area and will be using the 20s for that, yesterdays wagon collection was called off due to a points failure in Chaddesden Yard but a training trip 1023 Chaddesden to Pinnox Branch Esso Sidings at Longport is scheduled to run on monday, meanwhile Hanson & Hall 50008 ran light from Leicester to Bristol Barton Hill WRD for DCR presumably to collect the Chiltern set it took down last month for PRM work
 
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Just looking at the Hanson and Hall website:

“Flexible rail logistics services throughout the UK
Hanson & Hall has a compliment of 12 train drivers with a collective route knowledge covering the entire UK. This provides a great deal of experience and flexibility, meaning we can tailor our rail logistics to meet the customers needs.
Comprehensive route & traction knowledge
Our rail logistics services are operated by our preferred supplier Devon & Cornwall Railways . We also have contingency arrangements in place with further operators to ensure additional availability during busy periods, meaning we never let you down.”

https://www.hansonhallrail.co.uk/logistics

So it says H&H has 12 drivers but uses DCR for its rail logistics. What exactly is the link between the two does anyone know? Are those 12 drivers one and the same? Do they’re share resources? I’d imagine one company getting a job but needing the other all the time to actually fulfill contracts limits the profitability somewhat?
 
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I stand ready to be proved completely wrong, but I believe that Hanson & Hall are solely a logistics company that has 50008 as an asset, recent work such as the Chiltern set to Bristol and a number of stoneblower transfers are always shown as "operated by DCR", perhaps because they need the appropriate licence to operate which DCR have?

Garcia Hanson himself was the founder of Hanson Traction which was later taken over by British American Railway Services who had Devon & Cornwall Railways as a subsidiary, DCR is now owned by Cappagh while Hanson and Jason Hall are the joint directors at H&H

Having 12 drivers seems a little questionable, that's a big payroll for a company with one loco unless they do jobs like route conducting maybe, Jason Hall was at ROG before setting up H&H and also has Angel Trains, GBRf & DBC (EWS) on his cv
 
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I stand ready to be proved completely wrong, but I believe that Hanson & Hall are solely a logistics company that has 50008 as an asset, recent work such as the Chiltern set to Bristol and a number of stoneblower transfers are always shown as "operated by DCR", perhaps because they need the appropriate licence to operate which DCR have?

Garcia Hanson himself was the founder of Hanson Traction which was later taken over by British American Railway Services who had Devon & Cornwall Railways as a subsidiary, DCR is now owned by Cappagh while Hanson and Jason Hall are the joint directors at H&H

Having 12 drivers seems a little questionable, that's a big payroll for a company with one loco unless they do jobs like route conducting maybe, Jason Hall was at ROG before setting up H&H and also has Angel Trains, GBRf & DBC (EWS) on his cv
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That’s betting interesting thank you.

I do wonder if they have 12 drivers they can call on who work there part time and probably work elsewhere?
 
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More movement today with DCR operated HNRC 20118 & 20132 working from Barrow Hill to Longport Pinnox Branch and then back to Chaddesden to test the newly refurbished sidings prior to their coming back into service for use as a recycling/reclamation site instead of Basford Hall, another run is scheduled to take place tomorrow from Chaddesden to Alsager Goods Loop and return, the first loaded train of spent ballast is due to run from Crewe to Longport on wednesday

56091 & 56103 are also due to return to Chaddesden from Leicester tomorrow to take empty wagons back to Willesden
 
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The 6Z27 Chaddesden to Alsager and return training trip was cancelled today and replaced with a 6Z27 to Barrow Hill and 6Z28 return, an 0504 Chaddesden to Crewe Basford Hall is due to run tomorrow taking the wagons to form the first loaded run to Longport in the afternoon, the 56s also ran today taking the wagons to Willesden to form tomorrows Angerstein to Rossington working
 
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The 6Z27 Chaddesden to Alsager and return training trip was cancelled today and replaced with a 6Z27 to Barrow Hill and 6Z28 return, an 0504 Chaddesden to Crewe Basford Hall is due to run tomorrow taking the wagons to form the first loaded run to Longport in the afternoon, the 56s also ran today taking the wagons to Willesden to form tomorrows Angerstein to Rossington working
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The 56s on their way to Angerstein Wharf this afternoon

 
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Just looking at the Hanson and Hall website:

“Flexible rail logistics services throughout the UK
Hanson & Hall has a compliment of 12 train drivers with a collective route knowledge covering the entire UK. This provides a great deal of experience and flexibility, meaning we can tailor our rail logistics to meet the customers needs.
Comprehensive route & traction knowledge
Our rail logistics services are operated by our preferred supplier Devon & Cornwall Railways . We also have contingency arrangements in place with further operators to ensure additional availability during busy periods, meaning we never let you down.”

https://www.hansonhallrail.co.uk/logistics

So it says H&H has 12 drivers but uses DCR for its rail logistics. What exactly is the link between the two does anyone know? Are those 12 drivers one and the same? Do they’re share resources? I’d imagine one company getting a job but needing the other all the time to actually fulfill contracts limits the profitability somewhat?
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12 Drivers route knowledge covering the entire UK........ Yeh right,fictional route knowledge, what a cowboy outfit.
 
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12 Drivers route knowledge covering the entire UK........ Yeh right,fictional route knowledge, what a cowboy outfit.
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And the basis for your comment is? what factual information do you have regarding the individual knowledge or experience of those drivers? what factual grounds do you have for calling them a cowboy outfit? what do you know about the gaining and retention of route knowledge? if you had ever worked for a company with a large multi route requirement you would know that route retention is quite safely and competently covered by able management, do you have evidence that the company is not ably managed?
 
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