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Smoking one side, non-smoking the other?Anyone know what the dividers are for in the 153s , a third of the way along?
Smoking one side, non-smoking the other?Anyone know what the dividers are for in the 153s , a third of the way along?
Not that long ago TfW put one on the Sunday Shrewsbury wolves during a major football match. Every station was heaving and ended up with the police actually shouting at the guard for there only being 1 carriage. Absolute carnage.
Anyone know what the dividers are for in the 153s , a third of the way along?
It's often for the working later in the day. Where there is a spare from maintance they do try to put it on Crewe as its a known capacity issue line and has been for some time, but they will also try to strengthen it for events. Sadly the reality is they often end up knowing they are too short for events like Uttoxeter Races and have buses on standby ready for the inevitable left behinds at Derby.
Smoking one side, non-smoking the other?
They're just decorative from when they were 155s. The 156s have the same dividers too. Designed to break the cabin up a bit.
The 153s are fine when they are being used where they should be. Less fine when they substitute for something bigger, but that's same of anything really. A Rolls Royce is the epitome of luxury and comfort, but if you try and fit 27 people in one it'll be awful.
the need for an accessible bog pretty much writes off the concept of a single car DMU
That was the booked working for a 153
The modern take on an accessible loo doesn't take up much more room than the 1987 take on an accessible loo, to be fair.
The 153s fall down when they're used on busy services. Trundling down the HoWL or the Cumbrian Coast they're great, much better than the 142s they replaced. On a peak train out of Derby, less good.
I always tried to avoid the dogbox when they were used to strengthen the S&C, but a ride on a dogbox was better than the old way of standing all the way from Settle to Carlisle because Northern had reserved half of the 2-carriage train for a bloody coach trip.
The modern take on an accessible loo doesn't take up much more room than the 1987 take on an accessible loo, to be fair
Regarding extending them to 4 cars, I read somewhere that it wasn’t a case of the dft saying no, but first were wanting the dft to pay for them and that’s why it didn’t happen, similar to what happened with the voyagers being extended when virgin had XC.To be fair, most of those are to do with the intensive way they're used (although the whole railway is a lot worse off, since two toilets per carriage ceased to be the norm).
If the DfT had allowed TPE to order 4 carriage trains as intended, some of these problems would have been alleviated, but then TPE was only a service for us hicks in the sticks, so we got trains with less seating capacity than those they replaced.
I've lost count of the amount of times I've had a lovely journey on a hauled MK3 set between London and Norwich...and then have to change onto a single 153 to Lowestoft, which on a Friday/Saturday evening is always full of drunks. Utterly depressing, the rural FLIRTS cannot come soon enough!
Ah thanks for the info there. I've seen them in 2s before but never 3 until this morning.
Similar bonus happened this afternoon. The delayed 15:07 from Crewe was 156 so 2 carriages instead of the usual overcrowded 1 carriage.
I also thought that about the dividers but wouldn't it have been easier to completely remove them? Unless the last refurbishment was done when smoking was still allowed I'm not sure when this was though.
EMT were always good trying to get 2 of the 3 Crewe trains to be 2 car on Fridays so it was the best day to travel from Derby. I'm glad EMR are carrying this on and even improving it by deploying 3 153's!
Are you seriously suggesting single 153 between Nottingham & Norwich?The 'solution' at EMR would be to remove all advance tickets and reservations from the Liverpool-Norwich service and reducing the vast majority of services to 3 coaches west of Nottingham (and quite possibly some of the off peak ones to 1 coach east of Nottingham). Further solutions would be stopping a handful of peak mainline services at Syston, Sileby, Barrow Upon Soar to allow Ivanhoe services to comfortably run as a single coach south of Nottingham and possibly running direct road coaches to Skegness on Saturdays (the journeytime is no greater by road if it goes direct) rather than using all of the capacity that could be used on other routes.
Are you seriously suggesting single 153 between Nottingham & Norwich?
Give me strength.They've just suggested 3 cars between Nottingham and Liverpool, four isn't nearly enough as it is!
When quiet they're not bad at all. Had great fun not too long ago blasting across Lincolnshire from Sleaford to Peterborough via Spalding!
Looks like the rear four coaches are empty (locked out of use?)Ha,I've seen 8 car Liverpool to Nottingham trains twice over the last few months.
Obviously a previous service was disrupted and joined up to the following service.
One here at the end of this video
That sounds like it should be on the Beaufort scale...Trump Force One