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XC Class 170s to Manchester
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sufian123
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not regular, it’s replacing voyagers today. XC short of them. It’s not rare, it happens sometimes.
It's good we have such things as platform departure displays, there was nothing on 170101 to say where it was going. Front display was blank, rear display informed all & sundry that it was a 'Turbostar, Class 170'. So now we know.
A Cross Country service to Manchester was formed of a turbostar over the weekend (I think it was the weekend).
Who drives / conducts?
Do Voyager drivers sign 170s?
Or does one driver (route knowledge) advise the other (traction knowledge) - same with train managers / conductors?
Who drives / conducts?
Do Voyager drivers sign 170s?
Or does one driver (route knowledge) advise the other (traction knowledge) - same with train managers / conductors?
Mitchell Hurd
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I saw on JourneyCheck (and Tiger train times) for the 16:05 Manchester Piccadilly to Bristol Temple Meads service yesterday or Saturday it was formed of 3 coaches. I thought perhaps it was a 4-coach Voyager with one coach locked out of use - but then I thought 'a 170 from Manchester to Bristol?'
170's I'd find very comfortable for that sort of journey but obviously it's an extremely rare occurrence. The only problem is 9 First Class seats compared to 26 on a Voyager!
170's I'd find very comfortable for that sort of journey but obviously it's an extremely rare occurrence. The only problem is 9 First Class seats compared to 26 on a Voyager!
PHILIPE
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Birmingham New St drivers who work these services are conversant with 170s as they work them on the Cardiff to Nottingham route.
sufian123
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Birmingham-Manchester drivers and conductors both familiar with all 3 three types of trains, including hsts on this route. Driver doesn’t need assistant in driving to Manchester.
Maybe destination not programmed into 170
Kite159
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Unless it's a 170/1 with no legroom
Mitchell Hurd
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Just out of curiosity, wowou the 170 have worked the 06:37 from Nottingham to Bournemouth, and the 10:45 from Bournemouth to Manchester Piccadilly before then running the 16:05 to Bristol?
According to RTT it worked 1331 from Birmingham New Street.
swt_passenger
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Couldn’t work to Bournemouth, not route cleared west of Totton. Never heard if XC running a 170 on the south coast leg of their main network at all.
221129
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Not all of them. And no Train Managers at XC sign 170s.
Whistler40145
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I presume because a Class 170 substituted for the normal Class 221 Voyager that the service didn’t have a refreshment service for the whole journey?
221129
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You would be correct.
sufian123
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Thanks
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