Islineclear3_1
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Earlier trespasser on Down and Up former Central Div fasts, said person niw in safe custody and minor delays continue
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Trespass at Clapham Junction
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Islineclear3_1
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He just walked off end of platform 13 and was acting wierdly, near crossover, nearly got knocked down by a Gatex
Good lord. Faith in humanity lost right there.
Surely they have fences at the ends of the platforms?
-Peter
Islineclear3_1
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The fences are no deterrent
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So for 150+ years no fences ever needed, people taking a wander, being squashed was rare, now we 'have to' put up fences etc to stem the tide, strange world we live in now
If people are going to keep wandering on to the tracks, putting up things to stop them is better than doing nowt!
-Peter
theironroad
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Most platforms do have fences at platform ends but they are not full width. Rather than extending them to full width, most platforms have had rubber cone moulding anti trespass blocks added, but they are easy to walk over so not really a physical deterrent.
Not totally sure why fences not extended, but gauging might be an issue and even then if someone wanted to bypass them they could unless they are t shaped.
Oh yes - I forgot about those. Banbury has at least one example. Gauging sounds like the issue there, especially on curves maybe?
-Peter
jamesst
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It boils down to if someone really wants to go on the line they'll go on the line...
Fair, but having something there to stop them doing it the "easy way" of just wandering down the ramp could stop them....
-Peter
Islineclear3_1
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This guy had no intention in stopping, I thought twice about stopping him in case he had a weapon of some sort; you never know in London
People who hang out of droplight windows on such stock are told not to. If they are hurt through doing something like that, it's their fault.
-Peter
Good - in the world today God knows who hasn't a knife in their pocket. I wonder why he was so intent on trespassing?
-Peter
So someone innocently waiving goodbye from a droplight window as a train leaves a platform deserves to die, what a horrible chap you are.
Not at all, but signage telling you not to do so is there for good reason.
Waving whilst a train leaves a platform, I will admit, is more acceptable than at 100mph on the GWML, but still - the signs and stickers are there for a reason!
-Peter
Just step off the platform edge.
ExRes
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You can put as many fences as you like on every platform in the country and at ludicrous expense, what will they do? they'll jump down from the platform instead, it's very easy and it happened to me on a couple of occasions, are we going to fence the platforms in then as well?
ExRes
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A good idea of course, but the cost would be phenomenal and those really determined to do themselves harm would just go to Stoppington-on-Nowhere station and wait for the once a day passing service, if we were to barricade the entire railway system then I expect the cost of HS2 would look like loose change while those determined enough would simply move on to other places, would fencing in the entire UK road system be up next? I'm not trying to say for one second that the railway shouldn't do what it can but how far can you actually go?
centraltrains
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Surely you can say the same with regards to the "Do not pass the line" posters at the end of the platforms?
Fair point - that's why I said "at stations which can support them". I think I read somewhere that even the introduction of ticket barriers can reduce the number of trespassers, so maybe we can do that?
-Peter
Fair. The droplight windows on stock which have them are surrounded by stickers saying "do not stick your head out", and I suppose if they aren't working at stopping people from doing so, and neither are the posters on platforms, fences and bars could work?
-Peter
Islineclear3_1
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Clapham Junction has ticket barriers....
Islineclear3_1
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Indeed but is there any evidence to show that ticket barriers really reduce trespass incidents?
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