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And the basis for your comment is? what factual information do you have regarding the individual knowledge or experience of those drivers? what factual grounds do you have for calling them a cowboy outfit? what do you know about the gaining and retention of route knowledge? if you had ever worked for a company with a large multi route requirement you would know that route retention is quite safely and competently covered by able management, do you have evidence that the company is not ably managed?
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Hit a nerve there?? As a Driver of nearly 30 years of both Freight and Passenger, I’m well aware of the requirements of routes and retention.
The fact that DCr are mainly a spot hire company, there’s no way 12 drivers can adequately retain knowledge of the entire UK system.
Obviously I don’t know for sure about management standards within the company.
 
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It does appear that different companies have different standards when it comes to route learning and retention.
 
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6Z31 ran from Chaddesden to Crewe Basford Hall this morning with 20118 and 20132 to load the first train of spent ballast for Longport, 1541 6Z36 took the first load and returned to Crewe as 1744 0Z37 then 2040 6Z38 back to Longport, the locos and wagons will return to Crewe at 0534 tomorrow for loading to repeat todays runs, I believe there are a number of photos online of the testing and first days work
 
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Hit a nerve there?? As a Driver of nearly 30 years of both Freight and Passenger, I’m well aware of the requirements of routes and retention.
The fact that DCr are mainly a spot hire company, there’s no way 12 drivers can adequately retain knowledge of the entire UK system.
Obviously I don’t know for sure about management standards within the company.
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No, you haven't hit any nerves at all. I have also been a freight and passenger driver and I'm well aware of how much you can have on your route card and retain it safely, I signed routes on the Southern, SW, GW, ECML and WCML at the same time and sensible rotation by management meant that I was never required to take refreshers, these 12 drivers are, incidentally, described as H&H drivers, not DCR and whatever experience you or I have had I really don't think you're justified in calling them a cowboy outfit, hopefully after the WCRC fiasco a couple of years ago that sort of behaviour is now absent from the network
 
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How often is the longport waste trip going to be made, fail or could it be more often?
 
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How often is the longport waste trip going to be made, fail or could it be more often?
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This should be quite an ongoing job, Basford Hall has to be cleared and this site at Longport has been identified as the replacement recycling facility
 
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I have to say that I've been pleased that this thread has always kept away from the bickering and often unfounded remarks made on many others, this thread is about DCR and not Hanson & Hall, may I respectfully suggest that if anyone considers H&H to be falling short of accepted railway standards then they create a separate thread on H&H to discuss their fears and make their accusations, with or without evidence, there and not on this thread

Thank you


*May I add further thanks for the deletion of those posts
 
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56091 & 56103 worked the Willesden to Angerstein to Rossington job last night and then went light to somewhere I used to know well, Doncaster Royal Mail Terminal. The 20s have worked a full day between Crewe and Longport and are currently there with the 2nd trip for unloading, same schedule for tomorrow
 
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No I meant the 60's
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Apologies, my misunderstanding. Cappagh are quite a player in their field which covers waste recycling and management, recycling of aggregates and construction waste and land reclamation so there's plenty there to use rail transport for, the four 60s have been bought rather than leased, and although assets are always there to be sold, it does seem to show long term intent, personally I think there is a future for smaller niche companies like DCR doing the work that the larger FOCs wouldn't find profitable enough and particularly ad hoc jobs
 
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The Crewe to Longport spoil work continues this week, 20096 & 20107 ran from Barrow Hill on saturday to replace 20118 & 20132 which returned to Chaddesden, interesting that these HNRC 20s have all worked without problems while DRS attempts to bring theirs back into service for this years RHTT work seem to be a shambles, it's thought that another HNRC pair, 311 & 314, are now being readied for a return on behalf of DRS*


* Update on that, 20311 & 20314 ran light from Barrow Hill to York today
 
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The Crewe to Longport spoil work continues this week, 20096 & 20107 ran from Barrow Hill on saturday to replace 20118 & 20132 which returned to Chaddesden, interesting that these HNRC 20s have all worked without problems while DRS attempts to bring theirs back into service for this years RHTT work seem to be a shambles, it's thought that another HNRC pair, 311 & 314, are now being readied for a return on behalf of DRS
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Where will the 20s be used on RHTT work?

[Edit] - going off topic a bit so I decided to start a thread here:

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/2019-rhtt-traction-rail-head-treatment-trains.192892/
 
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Rossington to Willesden was cancelled yesterday and replaced by a trip to Chaddesden, engines to Leicester LIP yesterday and back to Chaddesden this morning for a run straight to Angerstein, not a bad idea really rather than going via Willesden
 
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56091 & 56103 back at Doncaster Royal Mail Terminal today from Rossington after last nights 6Z41, an 0Z42 1548 to Carlisle New Yard was activated this afternoon and then cancelled
 
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Looks like a busy DCR day at Longport tomorrow, the 20s are due for their weekend swap with Longport to Chaddesden and Chaddesden to Longport engine moves scheduled and then a further move 0Z56 Leicester to Longport likely to be the 56s which ran light from Doncaster to Leicester today
 
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Big changes today with the Class 20 swap cancelled, 56103 moved to Longport and will be in charge of the spoil work next week, 20096 & 20107 returned to Barrow Hill via Chaddesden seemingly after picking up 20118 & 20132
 
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Busy weekend for DCR with Hanson & Hall 50008 operating on behalf of DCR, it worked 0Z38 from Leicester to Bristol Barton Hill WRD on friday then on saturday 5Z38 to Wembley LMD and 5Z39 back with another Chiltern set for PRM work at Barton Hill WRD

56091 ran light to Rossington taking 6Z37 to Scunthorpe Roxby Gullet then light to Immingham TMD, is scheduled back to Scunthorpe in the morning then 0845 6Z60 to Angerstein
 
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It is good to see that Humberside is getting at least a little bit of 56 activity again, it's the area which used to be the main place for 56's back in the EWS days.

It used to be great at Barnetby when it was 56's galore
 
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Busy weekend for DCR with Hanson & Hall 50008 operating on behalf of DCR, it worked 0Z38 from Leicester to Bristol Barton Hill WRD on friday then on saturday 5Z38 to Wembley LMD and 5Z39 back with another Chiltern set for PRM work at Barton Hill WRD

56091 ran light to Rossington taking 6Z37 to Scunthorpe Roxby Gullet then light to Immingham TMD, is scheduled back to Scunthorpe in the morning then 0845 6Z60 to Angerstein
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Just saw 56091 go past on the way to Angerstein.
Looked to me like maybe a slightly shorter train than usual, but might be wrong.
 
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Angerstein-Rossington (with 56091) should have set off at 2300 but as of midnight nothing seems to be moving.
 
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Angerstein-Rossington (with 56091) should have set off at 2300 but as of midnight nothing seems to be moving.
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Yes, not sure of what happened there, the normal 2308 6Z43 departure was cancelled but is currently (0830) around the Spalding area with a retimed 0345 departure from Angerstein to Rossington

It seems that the Crewe to Longport spoil work has finished its first phase, which explains the end of hiring in the HNRC 20s, 56103 made one Longport - Crewe - Longport run yesterday and then ran as 6Z55 to Carlisle Kingmoor Virtual Quarry
 
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The 56s both enjoying some miles, 103 has spent the day at Kingmoor VQ and is due to form 6Z56 2200 to Boston Sleaford Sidings and then return to Kingmoor tomorrow afternoon, while 091, after arriving at Rossington this morning, ran light to Scunthorpe Trent Terminal Complex and then from there 6Z57 1425 to Chaddesden


Edit at 2330, 6Z56 seems to have disappeared off the radar, 3 early passing Petteril Bridge Jct at 2228 and then no further info, either a computer glitch, infrastructure problems or 103 is having a sit down
 
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Nothing showing so far for a second attempt at 6Z56 today, I'm wondering if 103 had been double headed with 091, as it usually has been in the past, whether they would have overcome last nights adhesion problems, it'll need sorting anyway as there was a return from Boston scheduled for today to form another night run tomorrow
 
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