TfW Class 170's

PHILIPE · 23 Sep 2019

The driver trainer didn't go out again today at the start of the new week

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86246 · 23 Sep 2019

anamyd said:
staff were saying at the scene of 170207's delivery that they had 6 755s and only handed down one 170, anyway 170272 is now in Wales!

I can understand their frustration but the deployment of their replacements hasn't been quite as clear cut as that (see the 755 thread).

I travelled on 271 yesterday afternoon for what was likely to have been for the final time in these parts. They will be missed.

tomwills98 · 24 Sep 2019

TheEdge said:
The thing with Crown Point is its a relatively small depot for what it does to start with and with redevelopment there to work on the Stadler fleet its capacity to handle work, especially on the Mk3s is really limited currently.

Ilford has taken a bit of the strain and a set goes to Bounds Green on a daily basis for work. Perhaps for some reason Cardiff is well equipped for more in depth work on DVTs that other nearer depots can't do.

Thanks for that, I didn't realise that Crown Point would be that small considering that work it needs to do. Canton deals with Gerald on the weekdays between it coming down and going back up to Holyhead, and maybe easier to get to than wherever Chiltern maintains their Mk3's.

OTRail · 24 Sep 2019

tomwills98 said:
Thanks for that, I didn't realise that Crown Point would be that small considering that work it needs to do. Canton deals with Gerald on the weekdays between it coming down and going back up to Holyhead, and maybe easier to get to than wherever Chiltern maintains their Mk3's.

Might mostly be down to experience - Chiltern maintain theirs at Wembley I think

Com166 · 24 Sep 2019

4 I saw mk3 Chiltern at arriva traincare Bristol

Mrs. Fortescue · 26 Sep 2019

I’m sure a 3 car 170 just passed my train into Cardiff, heading Bridgend way.

mic505 · 26 Sep 2019

In for PRM mods.

krus_aragon · 26 Sep 2019

mic505 said:
In for PRM mods.

What's to be done on the 170s? They're post-privatisation units, after all.

RPM · 26 Sep 2019

krus_aragon said:
What's to be done on the 170s? They're post-privatisation units, after all.

I think mic505 was referring to the Chiltern Mk 3s at Bristol.

eastdyke · 26 Sep 2019

krus_aragon said:
What's to be done on the 170s? They're post-privatisation units, after all.

All the GA/exGA 170s were refubished within the last 2 years, so I would hope that no PRM mods are needed!

RPM said:
I think mic505 was referring to the Chiltern Mk 3s at Bristol.

Ah!
Chiltern Mk3s - fair enough.

anamyd · 26 Sep 2019

Mrs. Fortescue said:
I’m sure a 3 car 170 just passed my train into Cardiff, heading Bridgend way.

was it 170207...?

PHILIPE · 26 Sep 2019

anamyd said:
was it 170207...?

Can't trace any such train through RTT. OP doesn't seem 100% sure it was a 170.

Mrs. Fortescue · 26 Sep 2019

I’m pretty sure it was. Like 95% sure. It wasn’t a Re-liveried 175 & nothing else is that shape or colour.

It was a 170, almost certain.

Plus there were only 2 170s parked up at Canton, I made a conscious decision to look.

anamyd · 27 Sep 2019

Mrs. Fortescue said:
I’m pretty sure it was. Like 95% sure. It wasn’t a Re-liveried 175 & nothing else is that shape or colour.

It was a 170, almost certain.

Plus there were only 2 170s parked up at Canton, I made a conscious decision to look.

in that case, as 3 170s have been delivered so far, I'm guessing that 170207 was on a training run, and that 170270 and 170272 were the 2 at Canton

33017 · 27 Sep 2019

anamyd said:
in that case, as 3 170s have been delivered so far, I'm guessing that 170207 was on a training run, and that 170270 and 170272 were the 2 at Canton

Three 170s have indeed been delivered but none have been off Canton. Even if one had, the class is not cleared to work west of Canton.

33017 · 27 Sep 2019

Mrs. Fortescue said:
I’m pretty sure it was. Like 95% sure. It wasn’t a Re-liveried 175 & nothing else is that shape or colour.

It was a 170, almost certain.

Plus there were only 2 170s parked up at Canton, I made a conscious decision to look.

What time was this? All three 170s were parked at the back of Canton at 1600 but only two were visible from certain vantage points.

anamyd · 28 Sep 2019

Does anyone know about the next delivery run yet...?

Icky Qualms · 6 Oct 2019

Saw 170 208 denuded of Toc Vinyls at Bury St Edmunds yesterday, this could be your next delivery.

dk1 · 6 Oct 2019

Icky Qualms said:
Saw 170 208 denuded of Toc Vinyls at Bury St Edmunds yesterday, this could be your next delivery.

I was under the impression no further moves will happen just yet and that TfW & GA have agreed.

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

Icky Qualms said:
Saw 170 208 denuded of Toc Vinyls at Bury St Edmunds yesterday, this could be your next delivery.

thanks for the info

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

dk1 said:
I was under the impression no further moves will happen just yet and that TfW & GA have agreed.

Ah OK!

Icky Qualms · 6 Oct 2019

Doesn't mean it is going anywhere yet I suppose.
We haven't had any Flirts introduced on our line yet.

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

Icky Qualms said:
Doesn't mean it is going anywhere yet I suppose.
We haven't had any Flirts introduced on our line yet.

how many 755s are in service overall...?

dk1 · 6 Oct 2019

anamyd said:
how many 755s are in service overall...?

Seven.

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

dk1 said:
Seven.

Have only 3 170s been displaced by those because of teething problems or what...?

dk1 · 6 Oct 2019

anamyd said:
Have only 3 170s been displaced by those because of teething problems or what...?

They are not all in traffic at once yet & far less flexible as can only currently work on the Wherry & Cambridge routes & only Norwich crews sign them. GA have 170204 out of traffic for accident repairs as well as losing the short set.

hobbm013 · 6 Oct 2019

I’ve heard Canton is pretty full as well... don’t know if lack of space is contributing to delayed deliveries for now

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

dk1 said:
They are not all in traffic at once yet & far less flexible as can only currently work on the Wherry & Cambridge routes & only Norwich crews sign them. GA have 170204 out of traffic for accident repairs as well as losing the short set.

ah OK

anamyd · 6 Oct 2019

hobbm013 said:
I’ve heard Canton is pretty full as well... don’t know if lack of space is contributing to delayed deliveries for now

even with just the ATW fleet, I couldn't get my head around how potentially up to 70+ units could be stored there, unless I'm getting that wrong! what would have to be done to allow the rest of the extra trains to be delivered...?

Class 170101 · 6 Oct 2019

hobbm013 said:
I’ve heard Canton is pretty full as well... don’t know if lack of space is contributing to delayed deliveries for now

anamyd said:
even with just the ATW fleet, I couldn't get my head around how potentially up to 70+ units could be stored there, unless I'm getting that wrong! what would have to be done to allow the rest of the extra trains to be delivered...?

I thought a new depot was being built at Taff Wells in the Valleys?

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