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BBC Archive "Back to School" (1949)

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My father was always sketching out potential model railway layouts based on the branch line terminus at Uppingham, where he'd been to school, as apparently he'd always enjoyed the train travel to and from there!
 

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All of them Jolly Decent chaps. Boarding school taken as read.

Relative from Chichester, at school in Bexhill, was long ago to return by the proudly announced "School Train" from Victoria, all sorts of advance hoo-hah required, and as a spectator, while I was of an age where I no longer anticipated the locomotive would be driven by the headmaster himself, I did have an anticipation that it would be something distinctive. Made a day of it, went up to London, went to the rendezvous point (although I had looked at the departure board for anything unusual) to find that the numbers travelling were - three. In the custody of a bored-looking member of the school staff who had been sent up to turn round and come back with them. They occupied one seating bay in a 4-CIG on the Eastbourne/Ore service.
 

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I remember bus/train spotting trips in the 60s the weekend just after our state school term started. Victoria would always have boys and girls in uniform heading for boarding schools.
 

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I knew that travelling to and from boarding school by train, rather than being driven there by your parents or guardians, was the norm in those days, but until now I had no idea that there were dedicated trains for boarding school pupils - I just presumed that they travelled on normal scheduled trains.

Does anyone know how many such trains operated? Did each school have its own train, or did one train serve a number of schools that were within a certain radius of the same station?

When did these school trains stop running? My guess would be some time in the 1950s or '60s, by which time most such families would have had cars.
 

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Does anyone know how many such trains operated? Did each school have its own train, or did one train serve a number of schools that were within a certain radius of the same station?

When did these school trains stop running? My guess would be some time in the 1950s or '60s, by which time most such families would have had cars.

It depended on numbers - there was a cluster of schools around Sedbergh that didn't warrant a train each, so shared.

From memory we still had significant group bookings on the Southern around 1980, but not special trains by then, or even through coaches. Parents didn't routinely take their little darlings even to uni in the early 70s (mine wasn't the only trunk by a long way!).
 

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GWR and later WR certainly ran a Paddington to Marlborough service for the school there each term start/end.

A later variant was Exeter University ran a Special to/from Paddington at the start/end of each university term in the 1970s, organised by the university Railway Society. Initially a Warship. They got hold of old Torbay Express Mk1 hauled stock roofboards (the big long ones), turned them over, and painted them up for their specials. Covered in the Railway Magazine at the time, and on a thread here a while ago.
 
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I knew that travelling to and from boarding school by train, rather than being driven there by your parents or guardians, was the norm in those days, but until now I had no idea that there were dedicated trains for boarding school pupils - I just presumed that they travelled on normal scheduled trains.

Does anyone know how many such trains operated? Did each school have its own train, or did one train serve a number of schools that were within a certain radius of the same station?

When did these school trains stop running? My guess would be some time in the 1950s or '60s, by which time most such families would have had cars.


I recall schooltrains from North Wales passing through Eccles as late as1965
 

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From memory we still had significant group bookings on the Southern around 1980.

In Southern territory there are schools such as Christ's Hospital (which has its own station) and the Royal Alexandra and Albert School, a state boarding school near Redhill. Both of these schools have large numbers of pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds whose parents are less likely to have cars, so I would guess that they might still have significant numbers of pupils arriving and departing by train.
 

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In Roald Dahl's autobiography "Boy" he says he went from Euston to Derby when he went to Repton. I thought that sounded odd, as you would normally go from St Pancras to Derby but maybe it was a schools train that also served other schools en route such as Rugby. Or maybe he got it wrong, as I think he was quite old (well, late 60s or early 70s) by the time he wrote "Boy" so maybe he couldn't remember every exact detail.
 

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My father was always sketching out potential model railway layouts based on the branch line terminus at Uppingham, where he'd been to school, as apparently he'd always enjoyed the train travel to and from there!

I've always been intrigued by the Uppingham branch -- grew up not very far from there, but never travelled on it or saw it in action. (Did see its track still down at Seaton, I think shortly before demolition.) Normal passenger service withdrawn 1960, special trains for the school continued for a few more years, I believe. I fantasised about travelling on such a working -- with special permission, or else sneaking on and pretending to be a pupil; never tried turning the fantasy into action.

In Roald Dahl's autobiography "Boy" he says he went from Euston to Derby when he went to Repton. I thought that sounded odd, as you would normally go from St Pancras to Derby but maybe it was a schools train that also served other schools en route such as Rugby. Or maybe he got it wrong, as I think he was quite old (well, late 60s or early 70s) by the time he wrote "Boy" so maybe he couldn't remember every exact detail.

I'd reckon that most people -- authors or otherwise -- who don't have a railway enthusiast's level of rail-consciousness, tend to be fairly imprecise about such things: one takes it that for Dahl, Euston "felt" about right, even re regular services if that were in fact the case; and he laboured under no compulsion toward total exactitude in the matter.

Going off at a tangent re thread's topic: but, a bit of an embarrassing confession for me, an elderly male -- I have rather a weakness for reading "chick-lit". There's one particular practitioner of same (in the main, her writing quite intelligent and workmanlike, as things go with that genre) whose romance novels -- set in recent decades -- I enjoy; but she does drop the occasional spectacular clanger concerning rail travel. In one novel, she would have the reader believe in its still being possible in the 1980s, to get to Helston by train. That might be reckoned a slight touch of benign "alternative history"; but there's another, recent, work by this author where the heroine and her family live in the depths of Herefordshire, with frequent sojourns in London. Usually, their rail journeys between home and capital are told of as being, properly, to / from Paddington; but in one instance in the book, a journey home from London is referred to as being from King's Cross ! Yet another book by this lady, has the heroine travelling by rail from Sheffield to Oxford; involving a convenient change of trains at, of all places, Gosport (from the context, between Sheffield and London); whence her train takes her to Paddington, from where there's another prompt connection to Oxford. This last instance feels thoroughly surreal on all fronts. I've had brief thoughts of writing to her via her publisher, politely correcting some of her rail-related oddities; but that does feel to me, like missing the point -- she likely enough considers railway enthusiasts to be "sad" people anyway, and such a letter would reinforce that opinion !
 

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I've always been intrigued by the Uppingham branch -- grew up not very far from there, but never travelled on it or saw it in action. (Did see its track still down at Seaton, I think shortly before demolition.) Normal passenger service withdrawn 1960, special trains for the school continued for a few more years, I believe. I fantasised about travelling on such a working -- with special permission, or else sneaking on and pretending to be a pupil; never tried turning the fantasy into action.



I'd reckon that most people -- authors or otherwise -- who don't have a railway enthusiast's level of rail-consciousness, tend to be fairly imprecise about such things: one takes it that for Dahl, Euston "felt" about right, even re regular services if that were in fact the case; and he laboured under no compulsion toward total exactitude in the matter.

Going off at a tangent re thread's topic: but, a bit of an embarrassing confession for me, an elderly male -- I have rather a weakness for reading "chick-lit". There's one particular practitioner of same (in the main, her writing quite intelligent and workmanlike, as things go with that genre) whose romance novels -- set in recent decades -- I enjoy; but she does drop the occasional spectacular clanger concerning rail travel. In one novel, she would have the reader believe in its still being possible in the 1980s, to get to Helston by train. That might be reckoned a slight touch of benign "alternative history"; but there's another, recent, work by this author where the heroine and her family live in the depths of Herefordshire, with frequent sojourns in London. Usually, their rail journeys between home and capital are told of as being, properly, to / from Paddington; but in one instance in the book, a journey home from London is referred to as being from King's Cross ! Yet another book by this lady, has the heroine travelling by rail from Sheffield to Oxford; involving a convenient change of trains at, of all places, Gosport (from the context, between Sheffield and London); whence her train takes her to Paddington, from where there's another prompt connection to Oxford. This last instance feels thoroughly surreal on all fronts. I've had brief thoughts of writing to her via her publisher, politely correcting some of her rail-related oddities; but that does feel to me, like missing the point -- she likely enough considers railway enthusiasts to be "sad" people anyway, and such a letter would reinforce that opinion !

Sounds like geography overall (not esp railways) is maybe not this lady's strong point. She'd probably welcome the (free) advice from a fan!
 

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I was struck by the age of the parents - they all looked to be in their forties or even older.

I realise that the children would be around 12 - 13 - 14 - 15, but that meant that their parents were late 20s to late thirties when they were born.
 

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There was special trains for the Oundle school (Nene Valley) until 1972 long after regular timetabled services finished in 1964.
 
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I have a vague memory of going to Broadstairs by train in the mid 70s when going back to school (maybe just from a weekend away). Also remember a diversion via London Bridge and then the South London line one time with anxiety that the train (or perhaps by that time coach from Victoria Coach Station) would be missed.
 
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