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F.T.S. Anglo-French charter trains 1970's - 1980's

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Czesziafan

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I remember reading an article in "Modern Railways" in 1982 which detailed the operation of French Travel Services (FTS) charter trains for UK customers to various locations in Southern France and one to Brittany, all from Calais. There was some mention of combining Calais portions with those from the Low Countries in some cases. I wish I still had that article and would love to know where I might find a copy.

Also does anyone have memories o travelling on these services - as far as I remember from the article there was a choice of seating, couchettes or sleepers. What routes did they take and how long were the journeys?
 
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I remember reading an article in "Modern Railways" in 1982 which detailed the operation of French Travel Services (FTS) charter trains for UK customers to various locations in Southern France and one to Brittany, all from Calais. There was some mention of combining Calais portions with those from the Low Countries in some cases. I wish I still had that article and would love to know where I might find a copy.

Also does anyone have memories o travelling on these services - as far as I remember from the article there was a choice of seating, couchettes or sleepers. What routes did they take and how long were the journeys?
I remember reading an article in "Modern Railways" in 1982 which detailed the operation of French Travel Services (FTS) charter trains for UK customers to various locations in Southern France and one to Brittany, all from Calais. There was some mention of combining Calais portions with those from the Low Countries in some cases. I wish I still had that article and would love to know where I might find a copy.

Also does anyone have memories o travelling on these services - as far as I remember from the article there was a choice of seating, couchettes or sleepers. What routes did they take and how long were the journeys?
From mid 1970s to mid 1980s we used to take couchettes from Calais to various Swiss destinations...Brig,Chur, etc. No idea what company organised them but they started off with carriages from lots of different companies going to lots of different places, the smartest being blue Trans Euro Nacht/Unit/Night coaches, ours always being grubby looking green SNCF ones. As a small boy it was very very exciting. I don't think my parents appreciated the screeching brakes,blinding lights at stations, shunting etc but I loved it. I think they usually stopped at Lille (changed from diesel to electric?) Then on South.
 

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84EB29BC-08E5-42D5-AB59-66403A4520BD.jpeg I have an interesting one for you.

In the eighties, I did a few seasons as a coach driver for a company called NAT Holidays, based in Holbeck, Leeds. NAT officially stood for North African Travel but they were also unofficially known as Never Again Travel.

Their bread and butter work was to provide coach package holidays down to the beaches in the South of France, Italy, Spain and Yugoslavia, using double decker Neoplan Skyliner coaches. However, in 1987, they also used a train down to the sun for a couple of seasons.

They hired couchette and seating rolling stock from SNCF which included a disco/bar coach, and the train ran from Calais Maritime to Agde in the South of France where coaches were waiting to transfer the clients to French resorts. Then the train continued to Perpignan where more coaches waited to transfer clients to Spanish resorts.

As I was on the coach side of things, I never saw this train but I heard it had an SNCF conductor and SNCF bar staff for the disco bar, but the couchettes and seating coaches were staffed by British NAT couriers, working out of the couchette pantries and serving food and drink to the compartments and seats.

The train did not run into Gare du Nord but used the avoiding lines to join the route to the South, with loco and SNCF crew swaps taking place in the Paris suburbs and probably Lyon I would imagine.

NAT had a big set up on Dover docks where we did the coach interchange, and they had a portakabin for the office and catering supplies. A van would go onto the ferry filled with catering supplies which would service the train in Calais.

The passengers for the train would come down to Dover on board coaches from the various pick up points around the UK and then go onto the ferry as foot passengers. All the luggage would be loaded onto BRUTE style luggage trollies and be taken onto the boat. The luggage would then be waiting for the passengers on the platform at Calais Maritime.

The train operated on Fridays and Mondays and only ran for two years, before NAT became part of the International Leisure Group, was renamed Coach Europe, and the train was dropped I believe.

I enclose photos of the 1989 brochure with details of the train. I still have my old NAT Holidays jacket too.
 
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Very interesting that and not a service I was aware of. I think the FTS services was on similar lines except there were more destinations and I believe they hired the entire train too.

Interesting to see the Wagons Lits attendant in his cap and shirt sleeves. I wasn't aware that WL staffed couchettes but perhaps this is just a SNCF library shot to give an impression of the level of service the clients could expect.

I remember that around the turn of this century an elderly gentlemen in the pub where I used to drink told me of a holiday he had in Spain in the early sixties when they had a through train from Dieppe to Port Bou where they changed into another train to Barcelona.
 

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Very interesting that and not a service I was aware of. I think the FTS services was on similar lines except there were more destinations and I believe they hired the entire train too.

Interesting to see the Wagons Lits attendant in his cap and shirt sleeves. I wasn't aware that WL staffed couchettes but perhaps this is just a SNCF library shot to give an impression of the level of service the clients could expect.

I remember that around the turn of this century an elderly gentlemen in the pub where I used to drink told me of a holiday he had in Spain in the early sixties when they had a through train from Dieppe to Port Bou where they changed into another train to Barcelona.

The NAT Mediterranean Express window sticker is just behind the WL attendant so he’s definitely standing next to the actual train itself. Maybe SNCF required an attendant to oversee the NAT couriers on board as they wouldn’t be fully trained on the stock or carry any T keys that may be required. Just a guess.

Encosed photo of one of the double deck Neoplan coaches.
 

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That sounds logical. At the time SNCF contracted out the majority of their onboard services to WL, as they had done for many years. So a supervisory role over the UK couriers would seem likely. The coach behind the WL employee seems to be a UIC pattern SNCF couchette.

On the subject of French charter trains I remember seeing couchettes at the Gare D'Austerlitz in 1980 in a blue/grey livery not unlike the BR one of the time, but with the word "Wasteels" in large block capitals on the sides. I have no idea who Wasteels were or why they had their name on SNCF coaching stock and a special livery however.
 

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2051B419-21B0-4E7A-B99B-64DDAAE0D749.jpeg 14AA73A8-28E5-4197-AD74-162E516753B9.jpeg 96054BE5-5D2E-4EE5-9C68-93180CAD709A.jpeg You can actually buy model SNCF couchette coaches from the French firm REE modelles featuring the Wasteels logo.

Does this bring back memories? I think they ran from Paris to Spain a lot.
 

Czesziafan

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Thanks. These are exactly the carriages I saw. I have a photo somewhere and will post if it if and when I find it.
 

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Very interesting item. (I was in the travel trade and remember NAT.) I liked the scans/photos of the brochure and also of the Mitropa & Wasteels model trains. :D
 
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