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TfL have a highly recognised and well-established design standards and their maps, signs etc are usually produced to a high standard. However LU stations now have a lot of "homemade" temporary signs in a mishmash of fonts without the official TfL logos or symbols, which don't give as much confidence or clarity. What's going on - it just feels like nobody cares about how this is presented to the travelling public.
 
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I believe there has been a drive to encourage local messaging on things like escalator safety signs.

I agree that standards have dropped.
 

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Lord Ashfield and Frank Pick spinning in their respective graves.
 

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Central government have cut all funding to TFL. They've gone home and taken their ball with them. Its childish party politics. If London mayor and prime minister were in the same political party there would be money. Simple as. Its pathetic and I long for the day when public transport is exactly that, and not just a piece on the chessboard in a match played by w***ers with no interest in what's good for the people they supposedly represent.
 

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Just requires some staff with some basic Word know-how. I'm sure TfL have got a range of standard "poster" templates and logos for local usage. Presume some haven't been bothered to follow this and its not well enforced.

Always grates me when very very simple design standards aren't met (doesn't apply to just the railway!) and something I've always been keen to ensure is met where I've had the opportunity.
 

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There aren't a range of poster templates that staff can have easy access to.

If a sign needs making the need often arises quite quickly. You make it, and you get it into use so that you can go back to doing what you need to do.

At the end of the day, very few front line staff know (or care) about the "design standards". They're there to get a job done, and they'll do that with whatever tools they have to hand. For more permanent signs ones to the 'official' standards will often be made up, but procurement of these can take some time.

Sadly the people who decree the signage standards at stations generally have very little front line experience. Commentators here probably have just as little experience - as long as the sign does the job, then it hardly matters what it looks like (signed someone who had to make up a *lot* of signs, including an entire set of directional posters for a weekend shutdown, at zero notice).
 

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Back in my day there was a range of poster and signage templates available on both TfL Source, LU Intranet and the TubeLines Intranet.

Also a series of standard signs that could be registered to a station plotter at rather short notice.
 
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There aren't a range of poster templates that staff can have easy access to.

If a sign needs making the need often arises quite quickly. You make it, and you get it into use so that you can go back to doing what you need to do.

At the end of the day, very few front line staff know (or care) about the "design standards". They're there to get a job done, and they'll do that with whatever tools they have to hand. For more permanent signs ones to the 'official' standards will often be made up, but procurement of these can take some time.

Sadly the people who decree the signage standards at stations generally have very little front line experience. Commentators here probably have just as little experience - as long as the sign does the job, then it hardly matters what it looks like (signed someone who had to make up a *lot* of signs, including an entire set of directional posters for a weekend shutdown, at zero notice).

Not even a Word template? I've worked in plenty of companies where these exist. I've got plenty of experience of front-line roles thank you. If you haven't got good PC access, the supervisor or manager would do it / be asked to instead.

I would argue it does matter - a poor sign can often be hard to read, and presents a fairly poor image of the company (as the OP suggested). Once again, this isn't specific to rail / public transport but in my experience, you can see it more often in these industries.
 
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