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Double line stations in the steam era without a goods yard in the station environs?
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Or tasty Totty
I suppose that would depend on whether one preferred a more voluptuous companion
Well I've seen some threads go OT, but honestly from "Stations in the Steam Era Without a Goods Yard in the Environs"to the above!!!
Well I've seen some threads go OT, but honestly from "Stations in the Steam Era Without a Goods Yard in the Environs"to the above!!!
Yes apologies for going OT
As recompense, how about London Road (Brighton) ? Tunnel at one end, viaduct at the other.
I think it had some carriage sidings in the very early days, but most of the goods activity was on the other side of the tunnel for most of the later steam era I think.
That’s a good one.Yes apologies for going OT
As recompense, how about London Road (Brighton) ? Tunnel at one end, viaduct at the other.
I think it had some carriage sidings in the very early days, but most of the goods activity was on the other side of the tunnel for most of the later steam era I think.
I must say I’ve been very pleased with the response to this thread, thanks everyone.
Altfish
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Most of the stations on the now tram line that was the MSJ&AR had two (or 4) platforms and no goods yard..
So Navigation Rd; Timperley; Brooklands; Dane Rd; Warwick Road had no goods yard, the last two had 4 tracks
So Navigation Rd; Timperley; Brooklands; Dane Rd; Warwick Road had no goods yard, the last two had 4 tracks
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Hadley Wood GNR which was double track until 1959
Hadley Wood GNR which was double track until 1959
Not Southern, but what about Whatstandwell on the Derby - Matlock line. (former double track main line to Manchester Central). Station on the Derby side of a short tunnel of 149 yards and the goods yard,
sidings, signalbox and original station with low platform on the Matlock side.
sidings, signalbox and original station with low platform on the Matlock side.
Snow1964
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Southern Railway added some suburban stations which used nearby goods yards, but never had their own eg Syon Lane, North Sheen
I think both Hampton Wick and Barnes Bridge both count, both have Thames bridges one end, but never had a goods yard
I think both Hampton Wick and Barnes Bridge both count, both have Thames bridges one end, but never had a goods yard
Considerable numbers of SR stations in the London suburbs never had goods yards at all.
Just on the LCDR side: Brixton, West Dulwich, Sydenham Hill (there was a short siding IIRC), Kent House, Shortlands, Petts Wood (post grouping), Denmark Hill, Catford, Beckenham Hill. Not sure about Lordship Lane/Upper Sydenham.
Nunhead IIRC had a yard at the original station site.
(Bickley looks for all the world as if it had a goods yard, but didn't)
Just on the LCDR side: Brixton, West Dulwich, Sydenham Hill (there was a short siding IIRC), Kent House, Shortlands, Petts Wood (post grouping), Denmark Hill, Catford, Beckenham Hill. Not sure about Lordship Lane/Upper Sydenham.
Nunhead IIRC had a yard at the original station site.
(Bickley looks for all the world as if it had a goods yard, but didn't)
How about a couple of stops down the line in Belper which is in a cutting through the town. I belive the original station was outside the town and was kept on for goods when the locals insisted the passenger station was moved into the town.
How about Chigwell on the GER Fairlop loop? There was a single siding to serve the local nursery, but that was some way east of the station and removed by the time that the LNER took over. Steam services ran for a further 25 years until 1948, when most of the loop went over to LT as the Central Line Hainault loop. To this day there is a regular service over the two tracks running through the station.
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Certainly not on Southern, but in 1870 when the Midland connected Chesterfield through Dronfield, Bradway Tunnel, Beauchief and down the Sheaf Valley to Sheffield Midland all the stations had goods yards.
Dore & Totley was an afterthought, opened in 1872 without a goods yard but space allowed for one. Presumably the proximity to Beauchief made it unnecessary. About 1900 the 2 lines later became 4, reduced back to 2 in 1985.
In recent memory the unused space became a garden centre and it's now a heavily over subscribed car park.
With three tunnels in close proximity, Dore, Bradway and Totley, it might make an interesting modelling opportunity.
Dore & Totley was an afterthought, opened in 1872 without a goods yard but space allowed for one. Presumably the proximity to Beauchief made it unnecessary. About 1900 the 2 lines later became 4, reduced back to 2 in 1985.
In recent memory the unused space became a garden centre and it's now a heavily over subscribed car park.
With three tunnels in close proximity, Dore, Bradway and Totley, it might make an interesting modelling opportunity.
That’s a very interesting station. I’d heard of it, but didn’t realise how it was laid out.
It’s been very interesting researching some of the stations that have popped up on here.
The nice thing is that what my friend Paul has created seems entirely feasible when looking at some of these arrangements.
There’s even been a few remote(ish) places (especially halts) that haven’t had goods yards due to the local geography or the sizes of the stations.
It just reminds you of how varied our railway system was considering the size of the country.
Killingworth
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The Old Maps website is an excellent source of historic information, here's Dore & Totley in 1899 before it became a 4 track station, then in Derbyshire; https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/432350/381080/12/100613
You can scroll back and forward to find adjacent areas and look for other dates and more detailed plans.
d9009alycidon
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Another non-Southern one is the station in my avitar, Coatdyke. Coatdyke Passenger Station is on the Glasgow to Edinburgh via Bathgate, the goods station was on a branch line some distance away
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Someone mentioned Hampton Wick and Barnes Bridge. We can add Chessington North, Malden Manor, Berrylands, Earlsfield, Motspur Park, North Sheen, Mortlake, Strawberry Hill, Syon Lane, Fulwell and Whitton on the South Western (along with St Margarets if you don't mine having three platforms); Wimbledon Chase, South Merton and Sutton Common on the line to Sutton. I'm sure people who know south and south-east London better than me can provide details on stations there; I'm pretty sure I've been through stations there that have no signs of having had a yard. Some of the stations I've named were later additions, and the Chessington and Wimbledon to Sutton lines were late-comers, which may have something to do with why they didn't have yards. Some stations on the North London Line didn't have yards: Brondesbury, Brondesbury Park and Kentish Town West.
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Some of the stations did not have goods yards because there was other facilities near by. A example I can think of is Timperley where there was goods yards at Baguley (which is actually nearer Timperley village center than Timperley station), Broadheath which also served a large industrial area and Altrincham which is less than 2 miles away. In addition there was also a wharf on the Bridgewater canal. It was not until the 1930s that that the area was developed and it became a commuter town
RichmondCommu
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Camden Road which was the first station out of St Pancras. Opened in 1868 and closed in January 1916. The station was sited between a tunnel and a road bridge.
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What about Whitburn West Lothian, closed to passengers in the 30's and freight late 60's. Platforms are still extant.
RichmondCommu
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Apologies as I've just realised the OP stipulated that the station must be on a double track line. Sorry!
oddiesjack
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New Mills Central on the GC & Midland Railway never had goods facilities, these were handled at New Mills East Goods Depot on the Midland route towards Chinley, but through a tunnel, over a viaduct and under a road. There were (and one remains in use) some carriage sidings in the other direction, but there was absolutely no road (or even footpath) access to them.
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Bournville (obviously not Southern region!)
Nearest goods facilities were at the Cadbury exchange sidings to the North and Lifford/ Kings Norton to the South.
Nearest goods facilities were at the Cadbury exchange sidings to the North and Lifford/ Kings Norton to the South.
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Would Farington count on the WCML? Quadruple tracked though.
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There may be some candidates located on the ex-CLC line between Liverpool Central High Level and Garston.
St. Michaels, Otterspool (now closed), Mersey Road & Aigburth and Cressington & Grassendale look like they fit the bill. Double track, many were on somewhat restricted sites with tunnels in the vicinity, and with substantial goods facilities provided around the Garston area and Liverpool south docks, rather than at the passenger stations.
Across the Mersey on the Wirral, Leasowe, Meols and Manor Road stations seem to have had no goods facilities. These stations were 3rd rail electrified by the 1950s, so a bit like the Southern, but a fair way from the south-east!
Similar story on the ex-L&Y line between Manchester and Bury (now Metrolink): no goods sidings at Heaton Park, Woodlands Road or Besses o'th' Barn. The larger and earlier stations on the line, like Prestwich or Whitefield, did have the conventional goods yard adjacent.
St. Michaels, Otterspool (now closed), Mersey Road & Aigburth and Cressington & Grassendale look like they fit the bill. Double track, many were on somewhat restricted sites with tunnels in the vicinity, and with substantial goods facilities provided around the Garston area and Liverpool south docks, rather than at the passenger stations.
Across the Mersey on the Wirral, Leasowe, Meols and Manor Road stations seem to have had no goods facilities. These stations were 3rd rail electrified by the 1950s, so a bit like the Southern, but a fair way from the south-east!
Similar story on the ex-L&Y line between Manchester and Bury (now Metrolink): no goods sidings at Heaton Park, Woodlands Road or Besses o'th' Barn. The larger and earlier stations on the line, like Prestwich or Whitefield, did have the conventional goods yard adjacent.
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