Subtitling rather than dubbing isn't necessarily related to the likelihood of the locals understanding English though. It seems in my experience at least to be more of a cultural thing so when I was in Scandinavia TV stations used subtitles for all their foreign programming regardless of language. That extended to subtitling Norwegian programmes in Swedish even when the dialogue and subtitles were clearly very closely related.
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What is the bbc’s policy? Forgot now. Dubbing or subtitling?
They're more likely to subtitle than dub.
hexagon789
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Subtitles, dubbing is more expensive
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Yes of course. Thanks. Just like in NL then. But also on the fly so to speak - I mean in news bulletins.
In Germany it’s usually dubbed - a lot of the flavour is lost.
In Germany it’s usually dubbed - a lot of the flavour is lost.
I thought it was "no foreign stuff. We all know it's mucky anyway".
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thanks 
DarloRich
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Personally, I go to explore another country and the beer of another country but each to their own
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Tho I must admit I don’t usually drink UK beer, but Guinness. (or Beck’s blue)
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When I went went over the channel earlier this year I just streamed the news (RT International, live from Moscow, for breakfast and Euronews English for evening news - just to catch up with Raw Politics live from Strasbourg)
I did, however notice that my hotel had BBC World service, Euronews and AJ English on their TVs.
I did, however notice that my hotel had BBC World service, Euronews and AJ English on their TVs.
Indeed the Benelux Countries can show these legally, however outside the UK, Its is only BBC World that is 'officially' available, of course there are ways of getting a feed tho, which I would have thought is little bit on the dodgy side, but if no one reports it.......
Satellite wise the BBC and ITV now use transpoinders that are more tightly focused on the UK, there is overspill of course, but the further south you get, the bigger and bigger dish you need, until its..too big, and just unreachable
J-2739
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Television abroad is always interesting. When I was in the States, it was a shock to see how short, but plenty, the adverts were!
You don't go abroad just to watch the TV, but it is a nice extra.
You don't go abroad just to watch the TV, but it is a nice extra.
AlterEgo
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Telly in the USA is never a nice extra; it is garbage.
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I second that
Bantamzen
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Apart from the pharmaceutical adverts, you get the usual sales pitch for 30 seconds then 2 minutes of potential side-effects.....
Took my Fire TV stick on one trip to the Canary islands and found when attempting to use local WiFi that it was geoblocked. I have used my Three "Feel At Home" allowance to access iPlayer in Europe and USA at no extra charge, and using a wireless display adapter cast the output from my phone to the TV. My experience in Asia is BBC World News only on the local TV and data roaming charges are extortionate.
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Only been to USA once, stayed on Queen Mary at Long Beach. Arrived jetlagged and exhausted at midnight, only to find room (berth?) hadn't been changed/cleaned. Slumped in chair waiting for cleaning staff to arrive for two hours flicked through 189 channels, or whatever, and found nothing to keep me watching for more than two minutes. Utter garbage!!
Netflix tends not to be geoblocked, although when I was in the US it used to give me US Netflix when I was there. Travelling in Europe this year it's all just been regular UK Netflix as far as I can see. Amazon seems to be a lot more limited for roaming, and is hopeless for foreign dubs and subs anyway.
Obviously with a phone you can also download stuff in advance from iPlayer and Netflix for when the data runs out or the network sucks.
They specifically say that subscriptions can be used globally, but that you'll get the content that is licensed for the region you're in: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/14164
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When was that? I used my fire stick in Turkey and got Netflix and youtube no problem, even though the youtube ads were Turkish.
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Added to that, I wanted to finish OITNB but they were only upto S5 in Turkey.
It was this time last year i.e. October 2018. I didn’t have a Netflix subscription at that point but both Amazon Prime and iPlayer were blocked as I was trying to watch The Apprentice (sad I know
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I couldn't connect with Amazon Prime.
Amazon allow download to their own hardware. I'm not sure about other devices as I'm not willing to install their raft of trash software on anything else. If you do need an Amazon device I guess one of their nasty cheap tablets would pay for itself in a few nights.It was this time last year i.e. October 2018. I didn’t have a Netflix subscription at that point but both Amazon Prime and iPlayer were blocked as I was trying to watch The Apprentice (sad I know
When I visited China 2 years ago, I stayed in a hotel for a few days which had BBC Worldwide. Given that I spend most of the time there in student accommodation, it was quite comforting to finally have UK news!
Interestingly, Liu Xiaobo (Nobel Peace Prize from China who was very vocal about democracy in China) died on the day I arrived at my hotel. The news had a section about this which went on for 15-20 seconds until the screen went completely blank. The other channels were working fine, but the BBC news channel wasn't working at all. 5 minutes later, it switched back on again halfway through another news feature.
I obviously can't confirm it, but I am convinced it was shut off to censor the information. It seems too much of a coincidence.
Interestingly, Liu Xiaobo (Nobel Peace Prize from China who was very vocal about democracy in China) died on the day I arrived at my hotel. The news had a section about this which went on for 15-20 seconds until the screen went completely blank. The other channels were working fine, but the BBC news channel wasn't working at all. 5 minutes later, it switched back on again halfway through another news feature.
I obviously can't confirm it, but I am convinced it was shut off to censor the information. It seems too much of a coincidence.
Wondering what the experience is the other way round. In the UK, I generally only stay in Travelodges / Premier Inn type places [Caledonian Sleeper doesn't have TVs in its rooms].
I don't recall ever getting anything other than English channels, although I don't spend too much time looking.
I'm just back from a few days in Dublin - staying in a Travelodge - they had Irish and English language channels.
I don't recall ever getting anything other than English channels, although I don't spend too much time looking.
I'm just back from a few days in Dublin - staying in a Travelodge - they had Irish and English language channels.
I think it depends on the hotel and the target market. In my experience, budget city centre and motorway locations tend to be whatever is on Freeview, more upmarket resort hotels tend to have at least DW, RTE, Canal 1 and CCTV. Sometimes more.
I found the most annoying thing about TV over the pond was the fact that on news programmes the same items are repeated over and over again, broken up with the incessant adverts, most of which seemed to be for over the counter medicines. All of which have a disclaimer about possible side effects to stop them being sued.
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You are correct, foreign broadcasters such as BBC World will be censored in the way you've described.
As for available TV channels in Europe at least, BBC World and a selection of other news channels seems to be universally available, though in Germany, Switzerland and Austria these are dwarfed by the amount of German channels. Belgium at least has a good selection of everything, though watching BBC One/Two I fear the quality of programmng has dropped dramatically in the past 25 years. Though occasionally you find some interesting things around, eg: watching US comedy subtitled in Flemish, or Finnish films subtitled in Danish and so on. As for the USA, as another poster wrote, 189 channels but finding 2 minutes of actual programming before adverts means HBO probably.
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