Transport For Wales Livery

FrodshamJnct · 16 Oct 2019

PHILIPE said:
Great pictures

Credit to Darren Frearson of the FB ‘The Official Class 67 Group’.

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jh64 · 16 Oct 2019

Tom Maddox said:
Here she is...

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Looks very sharp. And almost like it's missing an old Virgin West Coast logo!

_toommm_ · 16 Oct 2019

Appreciate this might be up in arms as of yet, but will it eventually get the TfW logos too?

krus_aragon · 16 Oct 2019

_toommm_ said:
Appreciate this might be up in arms as of yet, but will it eventually get the TfW logos too?

Or will it be "Wales and Borders" logos? There's already been some political arguments over that...

swissrailpassion · 16 Oct 2019

More red needed.

Cardiff123 · 16 Oct 2019

krus_aragon said:
Or will it be "Wales and Borders" logos? There's already been some political arguments over that...

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If the recent re-brands of 153s/158s/175s are anything to go by, it'll get TfW and 'Wales and Borders' branding.

MarkWiles · 17 Oct 2019

Apart from the typeface used for the numbers which looks too much like the old pre-Corporate Image BR diesel numbers (and why white on an off-white background?) it's not a bad livery, proof that it can sometimes be possible to slap lipstick on a pig with success.

sefyllian · 17 Oct 2019

MarkWiles said:
Apart from the typeface used for the numbers which looks too much like the old pre-Corporate Image BR diesel numbers

They’re stick-on wheelie bin numbers, aren’t they. Oh my.

59CosG95 · 17 Oct 2019

sefyllian said:
They’re stick-on wheelie bin numbers, aren’t they. Oh my.

I challenge you to find any TOC who doesn't use stick-on "wheelie bin" numbers for their stock nowadays...

Chezni · 17 Oct 2019

swissrailpassion said:
More red needed.

Agree needs more red, looks too plain and will look dirty with all that white. But I'll wait and see final product with vinyls applied

PHILIPE · 17 Oct 2019

PHILIPE said:
153323 may be trying to have a go tomorrow:-

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03670/2019/10/16/advanced

153323 again failed to travel today

Philip · 17 Oct 2019

Given the time it has taken to refurbish and repaint four 175s, would it not be more logical to either use cheaper vinyl wrapping or even not touch the livery at all, since by the time the last one is done it won't be long before they start moving elsewhere (and with it into a TOC using a different livery)?

Units 003 and 107 look decent enough in the vinyl wrapping.

Cardiff123 · 17 Oct 2019

Philip said:
Given the time it has taken to refurbish and repaint four 175s, would it not be more logical to either use cheaper vinyl wrapping or even not touch the livery at all, since by the time the last one is done it won't be long before they start moving elsewhere (and with it into a TOC using a different livery)?

Units 003 and 107 look decent enough in the vinyl wrapping.

I agree, re-branding in existing livery, as seen on the Mk 3 set and ex-FGW 153s would've been sufficient IMO, then roll out the big re-brand when the real improvements come along in 2022/23

Eccles1983 · 18 Oct 2019

Philip said:
Given the time it has taken to refurbish and repaint four 175s, would it not be more logical to either use cheaper vinyl wrapping or even not touch the livery at all, since by the time the last one is done it won't be long before they start moving elsewhere (and with it into a TOC using a different livery)?

Units 003 and 107 look decent enough in the vinyl wrapping.

No.

Some of the sets have corrosion issues and need stripping back to base layers to fix. Whilst doing this they may as well repaint it properly.

Jacob Didcote · 18 Oct 2019

Yes 67025 will be guised with TfW branding. It has gone to Crewe to have these applied

6Gtraincrew · 19 Oct 2019

175001 has returned from Widnes, but I don't know what unit (if any) went in.

anamyd · 19 Oct 2019

6Gtraincrew said:
175001 has returned from Widnes, but I don't know what unit (if any) went in.

Thanks for the info

Rhydgaled · 20 Oct 2019

Interesting that the class 67 has a grey band along the bottom, like the Greater Anglia livery the class 170s are arriving in, unlike the 158s and 175s which have no such band.

Jacob Didcote said:
Valley lines livery vibes

I'm still disapointed that the doors and the window band on the TfW livery are red and dark grey respectively and not the dark green used on the ValleyLines Pacer livery. Chiltern's silver sets have their window band the same colour as the doors so presumably that's allowed as long as the lower half of the bodyside is a contrasting colour to the doors.

anamyd · 20 Oct 2019

Rhydgaled said:
Interesting that the class 67 has a grey band along the bottom, like the Greater Anglia livery the class 170s are arriving in, unlike the 158s and 175s which have no such band.

I'm still disapointed that the doors and the window band on the TfW livery are red and dark grey respectively and not the dark green used on the ValleyLines Pacer livery. Chiltern's silver sets have their window band the same colour as the doors so presumably that's allowed as long as the lower half of the bodyside is a contrasting colour to the doors.

Green has never been part of TfW's brand identity, so personally I'm not disappointed that something that was never going to happen isn't happening

Jacob Didcote · 21 Oct 2019

Rhydgaled said:
Interesting that the class 67 has a grey band along the bottom, like the Greater Anglia livery the class 170s are arriving in, unlike the 158s and 175s which have no such band.

I'm still disapointed that the doors and the window band on the TfW livery are red and dark grey respectively and not the dark green used on the ValleyLines Pacer livery. Chiltern's silver sets have their window band the same colour as the doors so presumably that's allowed as long as the lower half of the bodyside is a contrasting colour to the doors.

Well after looking at the Renders of the new Civity's that TfW will be receiving, it does seem to look like there is a grey strip along the bottom. I didn't release it was vital that a small grey line was so important, although one thing that does bother me is that the grey on the units aren't the same but then again that's just OCD :lol:

The grey band are currently on all DBS 67's, just a little feature to go with the red and the DB branding on the front. All grey bands besides 67005,006 & 018.

Jacob Didcote · 21 Oct 2019

The Grey solebar is something DBS like to do to all their locos, all European DBS locos have this feature too!

capital12 · 21 Oct 2019

Rhydgaled said:
Interesting that the class 67 has a grey band along the bottom, like the Greater Anglia livery the class 170s are arriving in, unlike the 158s and 175s which have no such band.

I'm still disapointed that the doors and the window band on the TfW livery are red and dark grey respectively and not the dark green used on the ValleyLines Pacer livery. Chiltern's silver sets have their window band the same colour as the doors so presumably that's allowed as long as the lower half of the bodyside is a contrasting colour to the doors.

If you look closely at 158 and 175 there is a grey strip - not very deep though, but it is there!

anamyd · 21 Oct 2019

158823 is now in TfW livery

Chiltern006 · 21 Oct 2019

Great! Only 9 more left now, and one is probably in paint shop now

anamyd · 21 Oct 2019

Chiltern006 said:
Great! Only 9 more left now, and one is probably in paint shop now

8 158s left for TfW livery, 3 of those being non-PRM

Cardiff123 · 21 Oct 2019

I've seen photos on FB today of the 170s in Canton sidings. The photos aren't very clear, but you can see that 'TfW/Wales and Borders' logo and branding has been applied to the GA livery, the grey strip has been left on the bottom of the train.
Must be the easiest re-brand for TfW so far, no re-paint or re-vinyl needed

anamyd · 21 Oct 2019

Cardiff123 said:
I've seen photos on FB today of the 170s in Canton sidings. The photos aren't very clear, but you can see that 'TfW/Wales and Borders' logo and branding has been applied to the GA livery, the grey strip has been left on the bottom of the train.
Must be the easiest re-brand for TfW so far, no re-paint or re-vinyl needed

To "all" 3...? which Facebook page / group are they on / in...? And yes, quite :lol:

Although the doors are the wrong shade of red

Cardiff123 · 21 Oct 2019

anamyd said:
To "all" 3...? which Facebook page / group are they on / in...? And yes, quite Although the doors are the wrong shade of red

'Railways in South Wales' on FB. But you're not missing anything, the photos aren't great quality but the lettering and branding is just visible.

anamyd · 21 Oct 2019

Cardiff123 said:
'Railways in South Wales' on FB. But you're not missing anything, the photos aren't great quality but the lettering and branding is just visible.

oh, so you couldn't make out the unit numbers, or was it on all of the three that have been delivered so far...?

Nick Ashwell · 22 Oct 2019

anamyd said:
oh, so you couldn't make out the unit numbers, or was it on all of the three that have been delivered so far...?

I've just had a look at the aforementioned image and it's impossible to make out the unit numbers, that is if I'm getting the right image (alongside a 37/Mk2 rake and a Pacer). It was taken from a moving train and the window makes things fuzzy.

Edit: Was posted on the 18th saying it was taken the previous Saturday

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