XC fire at Doncaster earlier this afternoon (16/10)

Finfanero · 16 Oct 2019

Just came across this

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.u...ation-causes-disruption-and-delays-815648?amp

Crews have been tackling a blaze on board the Virgin Cross Country service on platform 8 earlier this afternoon.

All routes through Doncaster are disrupted, with some lines through the station blocked.

A spokesman for Cross Country said that no further information was available and that the fire was being investigated.

anyone with further information?

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rg177 · 16 Oct 2019

Seems to have been 221141 involved on 1E32 0945 Reading to Newcastle.

"Virgin Cross Country"...

NoOnesFool · 17 Oct 2019

Hopefully no structural damage..given the location, I expect that the fire was dealt with quickly.

EE Andy b1 · 17 Oct 2019

Aye, a long while since XC had out to do with Virgin!!

Did XC not have an interior explosion on a 220/221 running empty sock recently?

XCTurbostar · 17 Oct 2019

It still amazes me that 12 years after Virgin lost CrossCountry.. passengers and media still refer to it as Virgin CrossCountry!

Mitchell Hurd · 17 Oct 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
Aye, a long while since XC had out to do with Virgin!!

Did XC not have an interior explosion on a 220/221 running empty sock recently?

Correct, yes. No-one was onboard and the driver only discovered it whilst changing ends at Birmingham New Street.

xc170 · 17 Oct 2019

Mitchell Hurd said:
Correct, yes. No-one was onboard and the driver only discovered it whilst changing ends at Birmingham New Street.

Care to share any more detail?

Mitchell Hurd · 17 Oct 2019

xc170 said:
Care to share any more detail?

Here's the link which explains it...
https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http...QqQIIECgAMAE&usg=AOvVaw340dlNPtmdVRmygDWEV2jF

EE Andy b1 · 17 Oct 2019

xc170 said:
Care to share any more detail?

https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2019/10/train-equipment-explodes-in-staffordshire.html

duffield · 17 Oct 2019

I've emailed the reporter pointing out politely that it's been Arriva, not Virgin running the XC franchise for the last 12 years.

Tracked · 17 Oct 2019

XCTurbostar said:
It still amazes me that 12 years after Virgin lost CrossCountry.. passengers and media still refer to it as Virgin CrossCountry!

Sounds about right for the writer concerned.

Edders23 · 17 Oct 2019

XCTurbostar said:
It still amazes me that 12 years after Virgin lost CrossCountry.. passengers and media still refer to it as Virgin CrossCountry!

the power of the Branson

tsr · 17 Oct 2019

XCTurbostar said:
It still amazes me that 12 years after Virgin lost CrossCountry.. passengers and media still refer to it as Virgin CrossCountry!

I’m not sure anyone outside this forum and Arriva/DB themselves actually knows that it’s not run by Virgin any more. I’ve even had a couple of TOC employees ask me why it’s not listed under “Virgin” on their phone systems any more...

Edders23 said:
the power of the Branson

That, and CrossCountry not doing an awful lot to discourage people from thinking it’s Virgin (the brand identity isn’t terribly strong, train liveries and interiors could conceivably be a darker-coloured version of something Virgin came up with, etc.).

If they painted their trains green or pink or orange, or had a great big name like “First” or “Abellio” plastered everywhere (others also available), I very much doubt this would have continued.

XCTurbostar · 17 Oct 2019

There are some extra images of the Fire damaged 60491 on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=221141&sort=date-taken-desc

Hadders · 17 Oct 2019

I wonder is people will still think Virgin are operating the WCML in 12 years time?

PG · 17 Oct 2019

Undoubtedly they will, unless beardy has a vast advertising campaign running promoting all the things Virgin don't do!

Hadders said:
I wonder is people will still think Virgin are operating the WCML in 12 years time?

talltim · 18 Oct 2019

tsr said:
I’m not sure anyone outside this forum and Arriva/DB themselves actually knows that it’s not run by Virgin any more. I’ve even had a couple of TOC employees ask me why it’s not listed under “Virgin” on their phone systems any more...

That, and CrossCountry not doing an awful lot to discourage people from thinking it’s Virgin (the brand identity isn’t terribly strong, train liveries and interiors could conceivably be a darker-coloured version of something Virgin came up with, etc.).

If they painted their trains green or pink or orange, or had a great big name like “First” or “Abellio” plastered everywhere (others also available), I very much doubt this would have continued.

The Voyagers still have the same paint as in Virgin days, even the roofs are Virgin red under the dirt. The interiors are almost exactly how they were in Virgin days. It’s only really the dark red ends and pink doors that are different. Even the insides of the doors have the Virgin stripes

NoOnesFool · 18 Oct 2019

talltim said:
The Voyagers still have the same paint as in Virgin days, even the roofs are Virgin red under the dirt. The interiors are almost exactly how they were in Virgin days. It’s only really the dark red ends and pink doors that are different. Even the insides of the doors have the Virgin stripes

Part of me wonders if it was intentional to use a similar colour scheme for the franchise i.e. red and brown to minimise the need for any rehupolstering/repainting. Arriva are known for their erm..thriftiness.

EE Andy b1 · 18 Oct 2019

NoOnesFool said:
Part of me wonders if it was intentional to use a similar colour scheme for the franchise i.e. red and brown to minimise the need for any rehupolstering/repainting. Arriva are known for their erm..thriftiness.

Arriva is the name for cheap!

sufian123 · 18 Oct 2019

Effected carriage taken out and it’s at Central Rivers.

voyagerdude220 · 18 Oct 2019

sufian123 said:
Effected carriage taken out and it’s at Central Rivers.

Shouldn't that be affected?

XCTurbostar · 18 Oct 2019

I take it 221141 is completely out of service now then because it was a driving end?

sufian123 · 18 Oct 2019

voyagerdude220 said:
Shouldn't that be affected?

sorry typo

sufian123 · 18 Oct 2019

XCTurbostar said:
I take it 221141 is completely out of service now then because it was a driving end?

It was the one of the centre carriage. It can be seen, outside central rivers.

Minilad · 18 Oct 2019

sufian123 said:
It was the one of the centre carriage. It can be seen, outside central rivers.

That has been there for awhile now. I think it's the carriage from the exploding door train a few weeks ago

sufian123 · 18 Oct 2019

Minilad said:
That has been there for awhile now. I think it's the carriage from the exploding door train a few weeks ago

Oh yeah. Forgot about that. It’s a carriage affected on this one as well.

Darandio · 18 Oct 2019

sufian123 said:
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. It’s a carriage affected on this one as well.

This sure as hell looks like a DMF to me. https://flic.kr/p/2hw2Fa7

xc170 · 18 Oct 2019

sufian123 said:
Oh yeah. Forgot about that. It’s a carriage affected on this one as well.

It's a driving car, there is photos in this very thread that show that.

This place makes BBC News look accurate some times!

voyagerdude220 · 18 Oct 2019

sufian123 said:
sorry typo

No problem, sorry for being pedantic.

XCTurbostar · 18 Oct 2019

Darandio said:
This sure as hell looks like a DMF to me. https://flic.kr/p/2hw2Fa7

Yeah I thought it was.

Is it likely that the Cabinet Explosion Coach could be swapped with a coach from the fire set to keep one going?

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