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Hi there!

I'm curious as to what stock was used on this line in the past. Could anyone help?
 
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Hi. I can put together a post about the stock used on the line in the evening, but would need to know, firstly, which era you are thinking of.
 

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I think the first time I did the line (in 1990), there was a Neville Hill based Class 101/108 hybrid DMU in a ction on the route.
 
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I grew up with this line and its endless variety of DMUs. The staple units were the class 101s during the winter with 108s and 111s (later) mixed in. Class 104 4 car units and Cravens 105s appeared daily in the 70s and 80s. Summer was a different matter as all sorts of exotica made their way to the coast for some sea air. Trains of 7, 9 or even 12 cars were dispatched to deal with the crowds. On a typical 70s Sunday there would be two or three 6 or 7 car dmus in the goods yard, two loco hauled trains in platforms 7 and 8, another in the south sidings and 6 car formations standing in platforms 2,4 and 6. Services on Saturdays would bring class 110s from Bradford and Trans-Pennine units from Manchester.

Things were very busy indeed until the singling of 10 miles of track (!) between Bridlington and Hunmanby in 73 and less busy after that until the closure of Filey Camp in 77. Freight stopped in 1984 ish and Pacers arrived (running in 8 car formations) shortly after. A new clockface timetable saw the abandonment of the intensive Saturdays and gradual sprinterisation continued.


There is a good DVD showing the long formations along the line and at Butlins
 

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Wow, i had no idea this line used to be so busy!

As for era, anything pre-Class 158 really (mid-late noughties).
 

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Hi there!

I'm curious as to what stock was used on this line in the past. Could anyone help?

I think old local services would have been 104/117
longer distance would be CL37/CL40+ mk1/mk2abc

the occasonal cl47
 

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Wow, i had no idea this line used to be so busy!

As for era, anything pre-Class 158 really (mid-late noughties).

Many thanks. I think that, firstly, in the early eighties, you had, of course, the 142’s and 144’s on a regular basis with only a handful of either 150/2’s and 156’s.
But, prior to May, 1987, when those second generation units were introduced, you had loco hauled passenger trains on Summer Saturdays, and many of the first generation units.
I have a notebook with numerous spottings in it, if you would be interested. But, I think I would message you with them rather than fill this thread up here, unless anyone else would be interested in the trains from the mid Seventies.
To summarise what’s in that book, 120’s were seen on Summer Saturday extras, from the Midlands, to Bridlington, class 20’s were the usual locomotives on the pick up freight to Bridlington, class 110 Calder Valley unit’s frequented the line along with class 123’s and 124’s, as seen in the photo’s above.
I also have quite a collection of photo’s too, as well as recordings made on trains - a notable one being a nine car DMU on the last day of June, 1978. Class 101, 108, and 110 made up that formation.
It’s always good to find someone else interested in the line as well as myself.
Finally, for now, no 117 high density, suburban units were used, but occasionally, class 116’s put in an appearance on, again, Summer Saturday extras to and from Bridlington.
 

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My memory is of a former LNER Hunt class D49 on a trip from Scarborough to Driffield in early 1960s. Certainly compartment rolling stock.
 
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Class 31s were regular visitors and 37s with the odd 47 too as mentioned. Class 40s often worked the London trains, even sometimes a deltic. In the summer there were daily excursions with locos. Saturday mornings were very busy with trains every few minutes around mid-morning.
The station saw trains dividing and units shunting daily.
By the early 80s there was just one regular loco hauled train - to Luton hauled by a Peak. A 31 worked a short set on Sundays. A HST worked a Glasgow train in the late 80s.

In recent times the only additional movement on a summer Saturday was an extra 153 attached to a 158.

Today's timetable is the best regular timetable ever with a late (ish) train from Scarborough at 2111. (It would be more useful an hour later).
 

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Many thanks. I think that, firstly, in the early eighties, you had, of course, the 142’s and 144’s on a regular basis with only a handful of either 150/2’s and 156’s.
But, prior to May, 1987, when those second generation units were introduced, you had loco hauled passenger trains on Summer Saturdays, and many of the first generation units.
I have a notebook with numerous spottings in it, if you would be interested. But, I think I would message you with them rather than fill this thread up here, unless anyone else would be interested in the trains from the mid Seventies.
To summarise what’s in that book, 120’s were seen on Summer Saturday extras, from the Midlands, to Bridlington, class 20’s were the usual locomotives on the pick up freight to Bridlington, class 110 Calder Valley unit’s frequented the line along with class 123’s and 124’s, as seen in the photo’s above.
I also have quite a collection of photo’s too, as well as recordings made on trains - a notable one being a nine car DMU on the last day of June, 1978. Class 101, 108, and 110 made up that formation.
It’s always good to find someone else interested in the line as well as myself.
Finally, for now, no 117 high density, suburban units were used, but occasionally, class 116’s put in an appearance on, again, Summer Saturday extras to and from Bridlington.

Thanks, amazing amount of detail! I agree, whenever you hear about Northern these days, this part of the north seems to never get any mentions, so it's good to see that there's people other than myself who are interested in the line.

My memory is of a former LNER Hunt class D49 on a trip from Scarborough to Driffield in early 1960s. Certainly compartment rolling stock.

Think i recall reading about those being used in this area so that would match up.

Class 31s were regular visitors and 37s with the odd 47 too as mentioned. Class 40s often worked the London trains, even sometimes a deltic. In the summer there were daily excursions with locos. Saturday mornings were very busy with trains every few minutes around mid-morning.
The station saw trains dividing and units shunting daily.
By the early 80s there was just one regular loco hauled train - to Luton hauled by a Peak. A 31 worked a short set on Sundays. A HST worked a Glasgow train in the late 80s.

In recent times the only additional movement on a summer Saturday was an extra 153 attached to a 158.

Today's timetable is the best regular timetable ever with a late (ish) train from Scarborough at 2111. (It would be more useful an hour later).

Heard about the deltics too. The variety on this line must of been staggering!

It's worth noting that many of the services are worked by 3-car 170s now which would of previously been worked by 2-car 158s. The trains are getting longer now, though i suspect this is simply a coincidence with Northern acquiring the 170s from ScotRail.

You do also occasionally see 4-car formations of 158s or 150s during summer. I was on a 4-car 150/1 this summer from Scarborough-Hull.
 
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I forgot about the Deltics! Photo’s of them are available...
So, to give an example of part of one day back in 1977, here details from that spotting book.

Let’s, therefore, go back to a lineside observation at Beverley, back in 1977, on the 16th, July. I, back then, didn’t have details of the trains like we do today, but I hope this will at least give a flavour of what could be seen.

At 09.55 31305 and 10 Mk1’s passed by to Bridlington.

At 10.39, 47466, and 12 Mk1’s passed by to Hull and beyond.

The 10.38, passed by, 18 minutes late, to Scarborough, all stations, behind 31107. 6 Mk1’s.

At 10.42, a train for Bradford passed by, with 31105 and 10 Mk1’s.

At 13.33, three 2 car 104 DMU’s passed by to Bridlington.

At 13.48, 40070, and 11 Mk1’s passed up to Hull and beyond.

Then at 15.15, 31107, returned back from Scarborough to Hull, 14 minutes late.


I have much more I can post if anyone is interested.
 

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I think the first time I did the line (in 1990), there was a Neville Hill based Class 101/108 hybrid DMU in a ction on the route.

This photo’ may be that hybrid unit. It was taken at Beverley Station crossing in mid June, 1989. 108, DMBS, 101, TSL, and 108, DMBS respectively, and leaving on a service to Hull at about 18.00

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This photo’ may be that hybrid unit. It was taken at Beverley Station crossing in mid June, 1989. 108, DMBS, 101, TSL, and 108, DMBS respectively, and leaving on a service to Hull at about 18.00

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That's quite a rare unit on the line I think. It's a 108 with a headcode panel (519xx), so a North West based set, hence probably why the destination blind hasn't been set.
 

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I grew up close to line and travelled on it regularly during the 1980s. A significant number of services were 4 car, and often a 101 and 108 coupled together. I also remember the 110 as an occasional visitor. My favourite timetabled service was the summer service from Scarborough to Leicester. Northbound it went via York, and only came via the coast Southbound. It was usually a 37 + 8xMk1, and during the mid 80s it was the only timetabled service to use the curve to avoid Hull at the time. After Bridlington the next station stop was Pontefract Baghill.

My absolute favourite memory was however a HST railtour from Bridlington to Edinburgh. I do not remember the year but the payphone on a train was a 'new thing' at the time! I remember asking my Dad if we would travel at 125mph between Bridlington and Driffield and was surprised when he said no!!!!!
 

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I forgot about the Deltics! Photo’s of them are available...
So, to give an example of part of one day back in 1977, here details from that spotting book.

Let’s, therefore, go back to a lineside observation at Beverley, back in 1977, on the 16th, July. I, back then, didn’t have details of the trains like we do today, but I hope this will at least give a flavour of what could be seen.

At 09.55 31305 and 10 Mk1’s passed by to Bridlington.

At 10.39, 47466, and 12 Mk1’s passed by to Hull and beyond.

The 10.38, passed by, 18 minutes late, to Scarborough, all stations, behind 31107. 6 Mk1’s.

At 10.42, a train for Bradford passed by, with 31105 and 10 Mk1’s.

At 13.33, three 2 car 104 DMU’s passed by to Bridlington.

At 13.48, 40070, and 11 Mk1’s passed up to Hull and beyond.

Then at 15.15, 31107, returned back from Scarborough to Hull, 14 minutes late.


I have much more I can post if anyone is interested.
Great stuff. Please do post more!
 
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I travelled to Bridlington in September 1979. The northbound train from Hull on Tuesday, 4th was a class 101 (I think), but the return journey on the afternoon of the 6th was formed of a class 20 Mk l combination; don't know if this was a regular turn or if it was a substitute for a failed DMU.

There are also some films/slide shows of steam days at Bridlington on You Tube; a still on one slideshow shows D49/1 no 62703, with a Sentinel parked behind it (number not visible so can't say if it's a Y1 or Y3), and on another film captions show the destinations of departing trains
 

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At least for one summer season in the 80s (?) there was also a scheduled HST working - Glasgow (IIRC) with some intermediate stops > York > Scarborough > Bridlington > Hull.

The Transpennine and Cl37 in one photo were both in normal (non-excursion) peak hour services from Hull. The Transpennine set had worked 1640 from Hull and was shunted at Beverley for its return; and the Cl37 set was the 1650 Hull > Bridlington. These two formations at this time were fairly routine for a short period (a year or so maybe) and the TP working went on for much longer.

The other photo is clearly a very mixed set but what may be of note to some is the leading car, which is a Gloucester (cl 100?) car - the type that was in use on the NYMR in its early years, and these were a rare sight anywhere, I guess. It's the only time I recall seeing one at or near Beverley.
 

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I had no idea the line was so rich with history, I assumed it's always just been a relatively quiet branch line.

Thanks for providing such a wealth of information!
 

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Oh dear, I can see how the line, and those others, now long gone, can be so easily overlooked by so many. ;)

So, here’s a few more sightings from 1977.

On the 2nd September, at 10.40, the Bridlington pick up freight passed by, up, to Hull with 31142.

On the following day, at 10.42, 47541 and 10 Mk1’s including two former Mk1 Pullmans, passed by up to Hull and beyond.

At 10.50, 31301, and six Mk1’s passed by, down, on the class 2 to Scarborough.

Then, on the 6th September, 20055, passed by at 09.57 up, to Hull, on the Bridlington pick up freight.

More spottings to come later on today.
 
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I had no idea the line was so rich with history, I assumed it's always just been a relatively quiet branch line.

Thanks for providing such a wealth of information!
Until the mid 60s express traffic from Leeds/Manchester/Birmingham etc came to the coast via Market Weighton and Driffield. In 1912 the station at Bridlington was enlarged to 8 platforms with pairs of through platforms (1,2,4,& 5) to allow unloading of trains travelling from both directions. The box at Bridlington South was enlarged to 125 levers and double manned.
It was never a branch line in the country sense at all but a line that woke from sleep each Easter to become a very busy destination.
The station was quite grand, some of the best survives. In 1961 the impressive overall roof of the original platforms was removed and concrete canopies were built. These lasted until 1983 when platforms 1 and 2 were taken out of use and the station reverted to double tracks.
A terrible concrete fence hides some rather cramped houses built on the site.
 

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Until the mid 60s express traffic from Leeds/Manchester/Birmingham etc came to the coast via Market Weighton and Driffield. In 1912 the station at Bridlington was enlarged to 8 platforms with pairs of through platforms (1,2,4,& 5) to allow unloading of trains travelling from both directions. The box at Bridlington South was enlarged to 125 levers and double manned.
It was never a branch line in the country sense at all but a line that woke from sleep each Easter to become a very busy destination.
The station was quite grand, some of the best survives. In 1961 the impressive overall roof of the original platforms was removed and concrete canopies were built. These lasted until 1983 when platforms 1 and 2 were taken out of use and the station reverted to double tracks.
A terrible concrete fence hides some rather cramped houses built on the site.

Wow, i would never have thought Bridlington would of been so big!
 

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This evening, I have a photo’ of a four car class 110 Calder Valley unit at Beverley in late June, 1976. The extra car is one of the, at the time, spare class 104 TSL’s. I recall the afternoon being boiling hot, which most of that summer was.
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Those photos bring back memories. I grew up in Brid - our house backed onto the line to Scarborough - and remember many DMUs but only a handful of trains hauled by a loco.
Having said that it is 40+ years ago!
Classes 101, 104, 105, 108 and 110 were very familiar with the 104 and 110 being my favourites for some unknown reason.
Brid station was quite big in the 70s/80s but as I remember only a few of the platforms were in use - very different now I understand as I haven't been back for years. There was a wooden floored bridge across to the Scarborough bound platform with gaps in the timbers (less than an inch and perfectly solid but I was scared of it in case it collapsed!)
Best memories:-
1. Going into the Butlins camp branch on a trip to Scarborough one day and seeing a locomotive close up. Never travelled behind one till i was 18 in the 80s. That was a 31 from Leeds to Scarborough.
2. Best ever - the driver letting me ride in the cab with him one evening back from Scarborough after a visit to the hospital to see my Dad and letting me sound the horn (I was 10).
Still love "proper" DMUs where you could see out of the front.
Thanks for a great thread!
 
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Those photos bring back memories. I grew up in Brid - our house backed onto the line to Scarborough - and remember many DMUs but only a handful of trains hauled by a loco.
Having said that it is 40+ years ago!
Classes 101, 104, 105, 108 and 110 were very familiar with the 104 and 110 being my favourites for some unknown reason.
Brid station was quite big in the 70s/80s but as I remember only a few of the platforms were in use - very different now I understand as I haven't been back for years. There was a wooden floored bridge across to the Scarborough bound platform with gaps in the timbers (less than an inch and perfectly solid but I was scared of it in case it collapsed!)
Best memories:-
1. Going into the Butlins camp branch on a trip to Scarborough one day and seeing a locomotive close up. Never travelled behind one till i was 18 in the 80s. That was a 31 from Leeds to Scarborough.
2. Best ever - the driver letting me ride in the cab with him one evening back from Scarborough after a visit to the hospital to see my Dad and letting me sound the horn (I was 10).
Still love "proper" DMUs where you could see out of the front.
Thanks for a great thread!

No problem! I too have lived on this line in several locations so i have a lot of fond memories of it too. It was my first introduction to the railways.
 

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Good morning everyone. I’ve just got time to post this photo’ of a two car class 101 on a service to Hull from Beverley in July, 1985.

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