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C2C Part time drivers wanted

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Please note you must already be a qualified driver to apply. This is not a trainee vacancy.
 

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That looks like a decent little number. No nights, dead earlies or lates and every weekend off.
 

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Only 5 hours driving a day by the time you talke into account your pnb and turn around time plus free travel and private for family and holidays works out at just over 3 hrs work a day for 35 k plus london waiting that's not bad. Cant please all the people all of the time .
 

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Only 5 hours driving a day by the time you talke into account your pnb and turn around time plus free travel and private for family and holidays works out at just over 3 hrs work a day for 35 k plus london waiting that's not bad. Cant please all the people all of the time .
Won’t be any PNB’s in the jobs as they are less than 6hrs in turn length. No London weighting on top of the salary as it got included in salary as part of a pay deal years ago. Some weeks will be 5 days a week as well others 3 or 4 as it’s an average 4 days a week. Average 20hrs a week.
 

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I'd much rather do this than that night tube madness thousands of people are queuing up to do. Peak hours only, every weekend off. If its average 4 day week then for every 5 day week there must be a 3 day week so who cares? If my TOC was offering this I would be all over it.
 

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Hahahah only in the railway industry would people sit there and make out a position like this is a bad thing or simply point out the negatives.

We still have plenty who have never been out there in the "real world"
 

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Nothing about being in the real world.

If you are a driver and want PART TIME why would you go and work 4 days a week.

Aslefs main aim is a 4 day week for drivers

Why would you work the SAME AMOUNT of days as a full time driver, this seems like a back door way for c2c to get peak time trains in without employing full time drivers and I'm surprised aslef are condoning it, fair enough part time for internals or job share but externals.

Let's see how many qualified's apply for it before we start congratulating c2c on a great opportunity.
 

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I only work a 4 day week at my TOC. For me, this would be pretty much full time. It sounds more like a reduced hours link. It would be great for someone winding down or someone who wants minimal hours for maximum pay.

Part time is spreading across the network. I support their efforts and as bionic pointed out. If this was my TOC, I'd be very tempted. I know many who would jump at this kind of opportunity. A TOC close to me does a 3 day week. I'd snap that up in a blink.
 

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From what I’ve heard within C2C many of the part time positions are being taken up by drivers near retirement who are doing it as a wind down role.

However this hasn’t filled all the positions required to make the time table work. So some shunters are internally progressing to part time (mainline driver) with a view to hopefully going full time as and when vacancies arise. As it stands it’s a good way to get you ticket and work reasonable hours.
 

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Nothing about being in the real world.

If you are a driver and want PART TIME why would you go and work 4 days a week.

Aslefs main aim is a 4 day week for drivers

Why would you work the SAME AMOUNT of days as a full time driver, this seems like a back door way for c2c to get peak time trains in without employing full time drivers and I'm surprised aslef are condoning it, fair enough part time for internals or job share but externals.

Let's see how many qualified's apply for it before we start congratulating c2c on a great opportunity.

No-one is forced to apply. It won't suit everyone but it will suit some people. It is completely normal that "part-time" can mean either fewer days a week than normal, or shorter shifts than normal, or both.
 

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No-one is forced to apply. It won't suit everyone but it will suit some people. It is completely normal that "part-time" can mean either fewer days a week than normal, or shorter shifts than normal, or both.

Exactly! And if people believe there would be a shortage of qualified drivers applying for this then they're deluded.

As you say because it doesn't suit some it doesn't mean it wouldn't suit others.
 

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Nothing about being in the real world.

If you are a driver and want PART TIME why would you go and work 4 days a week.

Aslefs main aim is a 4 day week for drivers

Why would you work the SAME AMOUNT of days as a full time driver, this seems like a back door way for c2c to get peak time trains in without employing full time drivers and I'm surprised aslef are condoning it, fair enough part time for internals or job share but externals.

Let's see how many qualified's apply for it before we start congratulating c2c on a great opportunity.

Because it's something that may suit someone else other than yourself! I know plenty that say if you're in the 4 day week at such and such a TOC why would you go to the 5 day week at virgin!?

Because it's their life and it's their choice. Quite simple really.
 

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Because it's something that may suit someone else other than yourself! I know plenty that say if you're in the 4 day week at such and such a TOC why would you go to the 5 day week at virgin!?

Because it's their life and it's their choice. Quite simple really.

People go virgin because it's virgin, I very much doubt the appeal of driving to purfleet and grays every day is the same as the pull of a 5 day week on virgin driving high speed stuff.

Like I said, let's see how many qualified's they will get go to East Ham depot for this number.
 

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part time or reduced hours doesn't always have to mean condensing days, I know of several drivers who's reduced hours agreement means they work the same amount of days as full time, but on much shorter, specific jobs. I'd also suspect ASLEF would be in favour of this, as it creates greater flexibility for those who might require it, such as older drivers or single parents etc.

I'd also say the majority of drivers are really not interested in changing TOCs just for the perceived prestige of the service. Most people work for the TOC which is local to them, and most people remain there. From what I hear its a nice little number over on the LTS, short and simple route, similar traction and a decent atmosphere.
 

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People go virgin because it's virgin, I very much doubt the appeal of driving to purfleet and grays every day is the same as the pull of a 5 day week on virgin driving high speed stuff.

Like I said, let's see how many qualified's they will get go to East Ham depot for this number.

Maybe not to you but to some who just see train driving as train driving and don't look at the prestige factor and just know a decent number when they see one Purfleet and Grays won't have much to do with it.

Yeah let's! I know my money is on this advert being closed just as quickly for this vacancy as any other vacancy would be.

Your logic just seems flawed... Drivers go against the grain every day....people would say TOC drivers would be mad to go to freight.....doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
 

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part time or reduced hours doesn't always have to mean condensing days, I know of several drivers who's reduced hours agreement means they work the same amount of days as full time, but on much shorter, specific jobs. I'd also suspect ASLEF would be in favour of this, as it creates greater flexibility for those who might require it, such as older drivers or single parents etc.

I'd also say the majority of drivers are really not interested in changing TOCs just for the perceived prestige of the service. Most people work for the TOC which is local to them, and most people remain there. From what I hear its a nice little number over on the LTS, short and simple route, similar traction and a decent atmosphere.

Exactly!
 

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Blimey I was only putting it out there for those interested parties, who would have thought it would create such a stir, personally I think its not a bad thing short days and decent pay, as others have said it wont suit everybody but there are worse things to do for far more hours and far less pay, lets not forget its not all bad in the train driving world although some people are never happy and just want to moan, its people like that that just make mess rooms a miserable place to sit in moan moan moan moan if you dont like it just leave and do something else but they wont because the money would be crap and nobody would pay they jack because really there isnt much going on upstairs.
 

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moan moan moan moan if you dont like it just leave and do something else

In a different industry I snapped after listening to someone acting like this on a nearby desk.
“You know you don’t have to do this job right? There is a door over there...”
As you can guess the reply started “yeah, but...” then tailed off.
 

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Who said anything about train driving being bad or moaning about the job you are making out like if qualifieds don't go for this they will be forced to go shelf stacking.

People may well go against the grain but for part time this is a poor opportunity when you are doing the same amount of days as a full time driver it.
 

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Who said anything about train driving being bad or moaning about the job you are making out like if qualifieds don't go for this they will be forced to go shelf stacking.

People may well go against the grain but for part time this is a poor opportunity when you are doing the same amount of days as a full time driver it.

Once again..... because it's poor in your eyes doesn't make it poor.

No one has said anything like drivers would go shelf stacking......it's you that's boxed things and made out people would be mental to go for it just because it's not your cup of tea.
 

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Once again..... because it's poor in your eyes doesn't make it poor.

No one has said anything like drivers would go shelf stacking......it's you that's boxed things and made out people would be mental to go for it just because it's not your cup of tea.

It's poor as a part time option fact.

Where in the real world would someone go from working 5/6/7 days a week to 5/6/7 days a week and call it part time.

If it was such a good shout then why are c2c having to recruit externally for it because I know if they brought in "proper flexi or part time working at any other toc it would be over subscribed.
 

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I’d be happy to do a four day week for about 5 hours per day during a 9 to 5 day, think it’s a good idea for some.
 

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Would suit me too. Peak hours only, no early earlies, no late lates, no nights, no weekends. If my TOC offered a link doing that 4 days a week pro rata I'd snap it up. I don't live close enough to the C2C route to make it feasible but I think this is a decent deal. Anyone who thinks I'm nuts is welcome to all my antisocial shifts.
 

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It's poor as a part time option fact.

Where in the real world would someone go from working 5/6/7 days a week to 5/6/7 days a week and call it part time.

If it was such a good shout then why are c2c having to recruit externally for it because I know if they brought in "proper flexi or part time working at any other toc it would be over subscribed.

Once again..... because you say the word fact doesn't mean that it actually is one. For some reason in YOUR paradise it's a poor option but the people on this thread alone have blown your " argument" to pieces.

Absolute nonsense.......we have part time/flexi at our place and it's far from over subscribed.......why externally? Maybe they've got a workforce quite young in their careers who don't seem it as an option? There could be many reasons!.....one of which being legally they may have to?

The fact you had to even ask shows that you've not don much research on it....you've just come here with sensationalist claims and negatives.
 

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Would suit me too. Peak hours only, no early earlies, no late lates, no nights, no weekends. If my TOC offered a link doing that 4 days a week pro rata I'd snap it up. I don't live close enough to the C2C route to make it feasible but I think this is a decent deal. Anyone who thinks I'm nuts is welcome to all my antisocial shifts.
The early morning part time jobs start from 04:30 in the morning at East Ham and 05:00 from Shoeburyness.
 

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The early morning part time jobs start from 04:30 in the morning at East Ham and 05:00 from Shoeburyness.

Count me out then. If I'm getting up at that time anyway I'll stay where I am. I like the concept though.
 

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Once again..... because you say the word fact doesn't mean that it actually is one. For some reason in YOUR paradise it's a poor option but the people on this thread alone have blown your " argument" to pieces.

Absolute nonsense.......we have part time/flexi at our place and it's far from over subscribed.......why externally? Maybe they've got a workforce quite young in their careers who don't seem it as an option? There could be many reasons!.....one of which being legally they may have to?

The fact you had to even ask shows that you've not don much research on it....you've just come here with sensationalist claims and negatives.

Was such a great opportunity for qualifieds and so many applied they have had to put it out to trainees.
 
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