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Northern Unit Refurbishments

Class455

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Not sure if this has already been reported but 150128 is now in unbranded Northern livery but still has GWR moquette onboard.
Has 319446 now left the northern fleet? I was hoping to get it from Manchester Oxford Road today on my train and had no idea it had already moved back south to Wolverton!
 
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Not sure if this has already been reported but 150128 is now in unbranded Northern livery but still has GWR moquette onboard.
Has 319446 now left the northern fleet? I was hoping to get it from Manchester Oxford Road today on my train and had no idea it had already moved back south to Wolverton!

319446 moved to wolverton on the 10th august, the first of the 3 short-term loans to go back, 372/373 are the others, was hoping it was another 323 going for refurb but no.
 

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Seen at Crewe today:

319361 to Crewe LNWR
331105 to Allerton Depot
150113 to Crewe LNWR
I saw 319361 there when I went past, wonder why it's there unless they're changing the seat covers since some of them still have the old moquette and FCC moquette. 319366 was there on Thursday in the same siding and I thought it was just awaiting to return to Liverpool Lime Street.
 

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I saw 319361 there when I went past, wonder why it's there unless they're changing the seat covers since some of them still have the old moquette and FCC moquette. 319366 was there on Thursday in the same siding and I thought it was just awaiting to return to Liverpool Lime Street.
They seem to be getting bogie overhauls there.
 

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Im looking at @507021's fleet list and it shows that only 9 class 319s have had the full interior refurbishment, how come they've only done 9 units and are the rest of them going to be done at a later date?
 

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Im looking at @507021's fleet list and it shows that only 9 class 319s have had the full interior refurbishment, how come they've only done 9 units and are the rest of them going to be done at a later date?
It seems to me that the stretched nature of Northern's fleet means that they can't afford to have more than a certain number of units (across the board) out of service at any one time, and a 319 being refurbed would count as that. It's unlikely that the rest of the fleet will get refurbished now, as they're all due to be supplanted by 331s and 323s (both Northern's own, and at least 17 from the WMR fleet).
 

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It seems to me that the stretched nature of Northern's fleet means that they can't afford to have more than a certain number of units (across the board) out of service at any one time, and a 319 being refurbed would count as that. It's unlikely that the rest of the fleet will get refurbished now, as they're all due to be supplanted by 331s and 323s (both Northern's own, and at least 17 from the WMR fleet).
Thanks, does anyone know if the 9 319s that have already had the interior refurbishment are being kept? As currently my list of units being refurbished is as follows

78 Class 150s
7 Class 155s
47 Class 156s
53 Class 158s
16 Class 170s
17 Class 323s and finally
16 Class 333s make 234 units.
Assuming that those 9 319s are staying and the rest of them leave then that takes us to the full list of the 243 units promised. (I see this as the most likely option). Otherwise all 27 319s will leave Northern (i've included the 3 units that are in the thameslink livery too) and that will leave us 9 units short to make up the 243 units promised
 

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Thanks, does anyone know if the 9 319s that have already had the interior refurbishment are being kept? As currently my list of units being refurbished is as follows

78 Class 150s
7 Class 155s
47 Class 156s
53 Class 158s
16 Class 170s
17 Class 323s and finally
16 Class 333s make 234 units.
Assuming that those 9 319s are staying and the rest of them leave then that takes us to the full list of the 243 units promised. (I see this as the most likely option). Otherwise all 27 319s will leave Northern (i've included the 3 units that are in the thameslink livery too) and that will leave us 9 units short to make up the 243 units promised

The 243 units was a part of the original fleet plan, which has changed since 2016.

I've not been keeping track of the 319s to be honest, so it's possible there's more which have been refurbished. However, they're all going off lease, with 319365 the second to leave the fleet.
 

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this is my list of what's left to PRM, there's 2 sprinters going up for mods on the links i posted on post 5995 and 150109 will be the one coming back, the crewe ones are unlikely to run;

5 150/1s 105/107/110/111/122
8 150/2s 201/209/210/215/218/224/226/268
12 156s 425/426/429/447/449/459-461/464/465/485/496
1 158/7 789
5 158/9s 901/903/906/907 and 910,
before the PRM deadline at the end of the year.
14 323s 323223 - 225/227 - 323233/235-7 and 239, should all be done by easter 2020.
 

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