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TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress

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1F60 starting from York 68030 + TP12 terminated at Huddersfield today door fault. Empty to Longsight i believe.
 

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Yes but these are Mk5a sets not Class 802s, different seats, check out @BillBlue80s TPE Class 802 review.

Not sure I follow..? as I’ve said countless times, all Novas have the same seats. The differences are merely cosmetic with the leathery bits and the slightly different head rest in First Class.

It is the same voice, but apparently that's not the normal voice?
There’s a couple of sets waiting to have a software update and they need all the voice files loading. For now the train is defaulting to a text to speech voice.
 

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Not sure I follow..? as I’ve said countless times, all Novas have the same seats. The differences are merely cosmetic with the leathery bits and the slightly different head rest in First Class.

Just shows what a slight colour change makes, where all seats are the same but the GWR one's look and feel the most drab and uncomfortable, the TPE one's look and feel ok but LNER one's being warmer looking seem to be slightly more comfortable, my opinion anyway.
 

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Not sure I follow..? as I’ve said countless times, all Novas have the same seats. The differences are merely cosmetic with the leathery bits and the slightly different head rest in First Class..

They may be the same seat frame, but the cushion on the Mk5a is VERY different in First Class to that in the 802.

The Standard seats are certainly all the same bar the design of the covers.
 

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Works for me too, although I do have Twitter so unsure as to whether that sways things...
Thanks for that, glad it worked:)

I wonder if the people in the pictures were enthusiasts or if that part of the campaign is still to come;)
 
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Finally in my first one. First impressions good. Feels like an intercity train! Can certainly hear the engine two from the loco. I like the vents on the window sills but I am always too hot.
 

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Here's a quick review by a teenage schoolgirl, travelling with her grandma on the TPE hauled stock from Malton to Scarborough:

"Are we in first class?"
"No", said the grandma.
"So it's a really mint train, better than any train I've ever been on before."

I note that the clocks on both sets out today were showing the correct time.
 

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They may be the same seat frame, but the cushion on the Mk5a is VERY different in First Class to that in the 802.

The Standard seats are certainly all the same bar the design of the covers.
So are the first class seats a little bit soft maybe? Or at least, well shaped and comfortable?
 

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Here's a quick review by a teenage schoolgirl, travelling with her grandma on the TPE hauled stock from Malton to Scarborough:

"Are we in first class?"
"No", said the grandma.
"So it's a really mint train, better than any train I've ever been on before."

I note that the clocks on both sets out today were showing the correct time.
It seems obvious that she was just biased because of the motive power;)

I’ve heard similar comments several times about how nice the Mk5a stock is and the exact same thing of thinking standard was first.

On one occasion I heard ‘I don’t normally use TransPennine between York and Newcastle but if they get these trains then I definitely will’. That was despite having to stand in the vestibule!
 
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So does anybody know if there going to up the in passenger service of Nova 3 from 2 diagrams per day soon or maybe December timetable or is it going to be.next year now.
 

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I’ve caught one for the first time today and my first impression is how they’ve managed to create carriages that are almost entirely table seats align with the windows so badly just beggars belief. A large number of tableshas a thick pillar down the middle of it.
 
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I’ve caught one for the first time today and my first impression is how they’ve managed to create carriages that are almost entirely table seats align with the windows so badly just beggars belief. Literally every single table has a thick pillar down the middle of it.
Your last sentence is simply not true.7B5C80A1-2151-40A5-A863-94C315305533.jpeg
 

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No one knows then! :(
I think having sufficient crews to operate two diagrams reliably would be a good place to start before attempting three diagrams. There was on discussion on this in the diagrams thread, it seems unlikely there will be any more diagrams until December.
 

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I think having sufficient crews to operate two diagrams reliably would be a good place to start before attempting three diagrams. There was on discussion on this in the diagrams thread, it seems unlikely there will be any more diagrams until December.

That's what I've been hearing in the last week or so...

But we're well used to twists and turns in this long running saga :lol:
 

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That's what I've been hearing in the last week or so...

But we're well used to twists and turns in this long running saga :lol:
If one of the diagrams tomorrow ends up at Scarborough overnight then I wonder if there might be a treat on Monday morning...
 

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I think having sufficient crews to operate two diagrams reliably would be a good place to start before attempting three diagrams. There was on discussion on this in the diagrams thread, it seems unlikely there will be any more diagrams until December.

Ok thanks. Yep i suppose your right and at least they are heading, although slowly in the right direction and by May 2020 should have a full Nova 3 service. ;) Perhaps!!:!:
 

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How many sets have completed fault free running?

How many have been handed over?

How many have seen passenger use?
 

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How many sets have completed fault free running?

How many have been handed over?

How many have seen passenger use?
Hope the info below helps.
Can anyone confirm TP08 officially handed over?

Any corrections and I’ll happily update:)

Nova 3 sets arrivals (13 sets)
TP02 25.05.2018 37611/884
TP03 15.06.2018 47813/812
TP04 17.07.2018 47812
TP01 27.07.2018 57303/47812
TP05 11.09.2018 47812
TP06 02.10.2018 47812
TP09 15.11.2018 57305
TP11 03.06.2019 37611
TP07 26.06.2019 37611
TP12 16.07.2019 37601
TP08 13.08.2019 47813/815
TP13 01.10.2019 57305
TP10 23.10.2019 37884/47813

Awaiting delivery: spare DT

To store Longtown MOD
TP02 13.08.2019
TP05 13.08.2019
TP01 23.08.2019
TP03 12.09.2019

Sets accepted by TPE (6 sets)
TP09 12.04.2019
TP06 15.05.2019
TP04 04.07.2019
TP11 11.07.2019
TP12 03.10.2019
TP08 FFR completed (now at Crewe?)

Date sets in passenger service (5 sets)
TP09 68027 24.08.2019
TP11 68026 28.08.2019
TP04 68025 19.09.2019
TP12 68030 05.10.2019
TP06 68028 12.10.2019
 

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I’ve caught one for the first time today and my first impression is how they’ve managed to create carriages that are almost entirely table seats align with the windows so badly just beggars belief. A large number of tableshas a thick pillar down the middle of it.

It's the same issue as the Mk3 - the window spacing is based on First Class so Standard has to misalign. One of the symptoms of them being done on the cheap as a follow-on from the Caledonian Sleeper order (the seated coach on that is effectively 1st, and that's what they are based on).
 

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That one bay aligns does not mean that all of them do!
Indeed. But, as the sentence was 'Literally every single table has a thick pillar down the middle of it' rather than something more measured, it's fair enough to pick up on it.
 

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Indeed. But, as the sentence was 'Literally every single table has a thick pillar down the middle of it' rather than something more measured, it's fair enough to pick up on it.
I’ve changed that now, but it’s fair to say a large number are about as misaligned as it’s possible to be, and it looks quite comical.

Surely when you are entirely out of line, they should have put an airline seat in, so the next window bay is back in line again?
 

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A pillar at the centre of a table still gives a window view to both seats. Voyagers and Pendolini are worse, as the pillars are wider and rather than being central to the table they're often to one side, meaning one of the seats just has a wall.
 

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That one bay aligns does not mean that all of them do!
The original poster has chosen to edit their post. Please read their original post that I have quoted and you will see that what I have written is a correct response to that.
 
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