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Strat-tastic
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Anyone got a total figure for say the last twelve months? It must be pretty horrific at this stage...
Dai Corner
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The BBC estimate 85,000 retail jobs were lost in the last 12 months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50158169
61653 HTAFC
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Only ever used a Supercuts once... and there's a good reason I never returned!
If people want a cheaper haircut they'll go to a local independent, often somewhere they've heard about through word-of-mouth. The "stack 'em high, sell 'em cheap" corporate approach seems antithetical to something like a hairdressers or grooming salon.
my experience of these big chains are they often (not always) have employed the hairdressers who aren’t quite as high standard and so can’t make it independent. I’ve found an Indy I like and I only go to him.
underbank
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I wondered when we'd start seeing hairdressing firms go to the wall - they're springing up everywhere at the moment, both chains and independents - is the market big enough for so many?
Strat-tastic
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I often wonder how Turkish barbers differ to UK ones 
DaleCooper
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I often wonder how Turkish barbers differ to UK ones
Their haircuts are a delight to behold.
Busaholic
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I once had a haircut in a Turkish barbers: halfway through, he started to use a cutthroat razor, then proceeded to start rowing with his teenage son. Much cursing (in Turkish) and waving the razor around. I was lucky to get out alive!I often wonder how Turkish barbers differ to UK ones
61653 HTAFC
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More barbary?I often wonder how Turkish barbers differ to UK ones
(Sorry... Coat already on.)
I went into a Turkish barbers last year for a trim (my hair had gotten quite long), he cut the lot off, and I was too polite to say anything.
I often wonder how Turkish barbers differ to UK ones
My original barber retired. Proper old school place with wood panelling. The Turkish places are brightly lit, TVs, music and lots and lots of chairs. They'll burn my ear hair off and offer to trim my eyebrows, plus in some cases need another member of staff to translate any communications because they only speak Turkish.
I use one regularly now as it's close to home and convenient, but I've gone from paying £7 or £8 before to £13 for a simple trim and tidy up. Given how much longer they take, I suppose the hourly rate is about the same.
Go on a Saturday and they're full of people waiting, hence why others are opening up just doors away.
Anyone would think nobody got a hair cut before!
And if we go to Turkey, I wonder if they have English barbers?
Gemz91
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It seems like Iv'e been paying £10 for a haircut for as long as I can remember, its one thing that never seems to increase in price.
Always surprised to see how late some of these Turkish/African/Polish/not English run barbours are open, particularly at weekends. Been past some at 9pm on Sunday evenings that are still open. Not sure if its a culture thing to get your hair cut after church on a Sunday evening in some countries.
Always surprised to see how late some of these Turkish/African/Polish/not English run barbours are open, particularly at weekends. Been past some at 9pm on Sunday evenings that are still open. Not sure if its a culture thing to get your hair cut after church on a Sunday evening in some countries.
Barbering in general is very cyclical; much less than ladies’ hairdressing. When beards and longer styles are fashionable, barbers proliferate. When clean chins and short backs and sides are ‘in’, there’s much less demand.
Eh? Never considered my local Tesco Express to be particularly Turkish/African/Polish/not English. Unless buying caremalised onion marmalade after church is less heinous than having a haircut.
Eh? Never considered my local Tesco Express to be particularly Turkish/African/Polish/not English. Unless buying caremalised onion marmalade after church is less heinous than having a haircut.
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No they don't. Nobody in the UK who is a trained barber (and who is in their right mind) would emigrate to Turkey.
Turkish , and Middle eastern culture have a more night culture.
£10 for me .
Always barbers .
EM2
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I can't find a cheaper independent locally. The cheapest I've found is £12 for a No. 4 buzzcut, which is a tenner in Supercuts.
A bit of a shock, when I was paying £6.50 in East London, and a little less in Gravesend.
In the end, I bought some clippers for £165 and the wife does it.
61653 HTAFC
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If your local FE college does hairdressing courses, you can often have your hair cut by a student for very little cost if any at all, with the caveat that the person doing it might mess it up!
Kite159
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Depends on the area and local competition.
Most of the (many) barbers/hair dressers in Andover charge roughly the same for a basic cut (£12), probably designed so for a basic cut there is no price advantage using Barber X over Barber Y for a basic cut.
I tend to use one of the ones in Tidworth, as they are cheaper and open later, so I can visit after-work. A few of the ones in Andover close shop by 5pm, so rubbish for 9-5 workers
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johnnychips
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Blimey! Number 3 all over in Donny £5. I was horrified to be charged £9 for the same in Matlock last year when I had an hour to kill
Dai Corner
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It's been announced this morning that Mothercare's UK operation is going into administration.
That's a shop you'd have thought would be safe as people will always be having babies.
That's a shop you'd have thought would be safe as people will always be having babies.
underbank
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Mothercare was pretty poor though. Not sure if they sold anything that other retailers didn't sell. Our son is 18 now, and we went into Mothercare a few times when he was first born/young, but I can't remember buying much from them at all. I remember we looked at prams/cots, but bought elsewhere because they were so expensive compared with other retailers. I think my wife bought one or two items of clothing and maybe we bought a toy. To be brutally honest, we seemed to go in more just to use the toilets and baby changing facilities.
You could say the same about Toys R Us - people always want toys, but that didn't help them survive because they didn't do anything that others didn't do. Thinking about it, for our son, I think we bought most things from Babies R us - certainly his pram and cot and I seem to remember the toys being better than Mothercare too!
To survive, shops need to do things better than the competition - from my experience neither Mothercare nor Toys R Us ever did "it" better nor cheaper. If you're going to concentrate on a particular market, you have to be cheapest or best - you need a USP.
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The big challenge for many Baby Goods shops is that many people use them to compare and contrast premium items - such as pushchairs and car-seats, then go and buy them online to save money.
The shop is providing advice and guidance, in addition to holding stock and paying staff. They can't compete if people don't buy from them, so they are forced to close.
Parents will no doubt be complaining soon that they can't see the items before they buy - it's the previous generation that will have killed off the shops.
The shop is providing advice and guidance, in addition to holding stock and paying staff. They can't compete if people don't buy from them, so they are forced to close.
Parents will no doubt be complaining soon that they can't see the items before they buy - it's the previous generation that will have killed off the shops.
underbank
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Personally, I think Halfords will go the same way as Mothercare.
extremely uncompetitively priced is their downfall, for winning market share
tbtc
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I think that part of the problem is that you need a whole new group of customers every three years or so - Mothercare is fine when you have a baby but once you've bought the "big ticket" stuff (cot/ pram/ enormous car seat) then you don't need a specialist shop for your kid(s).
And with places like Primark knocking out childrens' clothes for a couple of quid, the people paying over a fiver for a "cute" t-shirt in Mothercare will be grandparents buying an occasional treat rather than parents buying things regularly.
I'm not defending "disposable" clothes, I'm not saying that the Primark model is great for the environment, but kids grow out of their clothes pretty quickly - you might justify a big brand/ designer garment for yourself, but a toddler's t-shirt isn't going to fit in a few months so there's not a lot of people who'll spend "Mothercare" prices on something that'll be surplus to requirements before the end of the year. Don't get me wrong, some of the Mothercare stuff was very nice but... it's a bit of a luxury when your dirty kid gets through dozens of changes of clothes each week.
So by the time your kid is, say, three, you've very little requirement for a specialist shop - especially when you can buy a lot of "child" things in big supermarkets - Aldi often have a "baby event" on etc. And the customers that Mothercare have seen through those early years of parenting will move on, meaning they need to attract the next batch - tough market - and there are a lot of firms competing for the "Baby Pound" - as anyone who's been inundated with those packs of vouchers/ offers will attest.
Another (demographic) issue could be that a lot of the babies may be from tighter knit families/communities, where the expensive things (prams, cots etc) get handed down, so fewer people are buying these things brand new?
Very well summed up.
Mothercare looks like a shop from a past era these days. It hasn’t moved with the times, and in fact may not have had much choice whether to move with times or not with the rise of eBay/Amazon etc.
I bet they’re paying some hefty rents on those prime location shops too.