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The 2019 General Election - Campaign Debate and Discussion

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Ianno87

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Well that likely holds of the Williams and Oakervee reviews under Purdah...
 

Terry Tait

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This should be interesting, especially if a major snow event occurs on the early morning of election day, the young people will fall for Uncle Jeremy's falsehoods, however, the cold will keep them hunkered down in their warm beds, Johnson will be incredibly animated and will dramatically increase the entertainment value of an election whilst the Liberal Un Democrats will make like dinosaurs and render themselves extinct.
 

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I imagine one issue with the Dec 12 election is that some students who are registered at their Universities may have returned home and so may have trouble voting. I suspect that the Tories were very well aware of this when they suggested Dec 12 as an election date.
Students are allowed to register at both their home address and their term-time address - but they are only allowed to vote once in a general election. (Those who are more politically aware may choose tactically whether to vote at home or at their term-time address.)
 

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Politicians are all the same.
You know when they’re lying because their mouths are moving!

Saying that I believe Boris more than that pratt Corbyn
Hope Boris gives him a bloody nose & then he’ll realise just how much of a pillock he really is.
 

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Believe Boris?, I man who ans never told the truth in his life, got sacked from a job for lying, an adulterer, who switches sides dependant on what he things will do the best for his career not the country, sacks anyone who disagrees with him, and someone who is disliked even by his own family.
Whilst I think Labour needs a new leader, Brown would have been good in a lot of ways, do we really have another credible option that can actually get into power? (I'm talking about the Lib Dems here). Hopefully if Corbyn did get into power then there would be enough people around him to make sure he doesn't do something stupid. A coalition with the Lib Dems would probably be the best option here.
 

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Is it worth having a forum poll on this thread for the predicted result? I'm fairly certain I know how things are going to pan out, i.e. another hung Parliament, but it would be interesting to see what the rest of the forum thinks. I'd be happy to start a separate thread if needs be, I just don't want to create more work for the mods if there's no appetite or it would be better purposed on this thread.
 

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At the moment the polls suggest a Tory majority of 50 but a lot depends on whether the Brexit party come back to life. They seem to have gone very quiet after the European elections
 

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I’m genuinely terrified to see what comes out of this. When colleagues in education are losing jobs because of lack of funds. When the very neediest in our society are constantly pushed back from extra support I want to cry. It really scares me to see what’s going to come of the whole thing. I can’t see things a million times better with Corbyn, but I can see them getting better, more so than with Boris.
 

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Politicians are all the same.
You know when they’re lying because their mouths are moving!

Saying that I believe Boris more than that pratt Corbyn
Hope Boris gives him a bloody nose & then he’ll realise just how much of a pillock he really is.

this is a parody account yeah?
 

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Corbyn has apparently said that this election gives a "once-in-a-generation" opportunity to transform the country. I am sure I've heard that before... :D
 

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I don't understand why we are having a General Election. It is supposed to 'resolve' Brexit but Brexit, we were incessantly told, was not a party issue. As far as I know, General Elections are contested between parties.

Yet, goldfish-memoried Britain remembers this as much as they remember Boris Johnson's desire to be dead in a ditch on Thursday. If he had any honour (or guts), he wouldn't be around for this General Election he wants. Remember 'Do or Die' ?

Depressingly, I'm sure the Party of the Poshies will win, with generous support from Alf Garnett forelock-tuggers.

Corbyn was wrong to spend so long pushing for a GE not a referendum. He looked a coward for avoiding one for so long and will look stupid and will be history on December 13th - to lose one GE is an accident , to lose two ...

Remember, the Speaker of the House thinks food banks are excellent. Perhaps food banks are what will make Britain great again.
 

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I ran a straw poll at my office yesterday amongst my colleagues. 90% of my office were intending to vote Tory/Brexit Party with the remaining 10% being Labour voters
 

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I don't understand why we are having a General Election. It is supposed to 'resolve' Brexit but Brexit, we were incessantly told, was not a party issue. As far as I know, General Elections are contested between parties.

Yet, goldfish-memoried Britain remembers this as much as they remember Boris Johnson's desire to be dead in a ditch on Thursday. If he had any honour (or guts), he wouldn't be around for this General Election he wants. Remember 'Do or Die' ?

Depressingly, I'm sure the Party of the Poshies will win, with generous support from Alf Garnett forelock-tuggers.

Corbyn was wrong to spend so long pushing for a GE not a referendum. He looked a coward for avoiding one for so long and will look stupid and will be history on December 13th - to lose one GE is an accident , to lose two ...

Remember, the Speaker of the House thinks food banks are excellent. Perhaps food banks are what will make Britain great again.

Corbyn wanted ‘no-deal’ off the table before a GE was called. That is why labour and other parties refused to allow a general election to take place sooner. Don’t forget, Boris wanted Brexit or die. Part of the manifestos for Labour and other parties is to give the public a final vote on Brexit and let them decide.
 

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I’m genuinely terrified to see what comes out of this. When colleagues in education are losing jobs because of lack of funds. When the very neediest in our society are constantly pushed back from extra support I want to cry. It really scares me to see what’s going to come of the whole thing. I can’t see things a million times better with Corbyn, but I can see them getting better, more so than with Boris.

I am equally worried, although more about the next Parliament being even more hamstrung than this one. I genuinely think that the Brexit Party & Lib Dems will eat into Labour / Tory votes, and parties like SNP making small gains, leaving a House so hung that nothing will ever get resolved. Meanwhile budgets get slashed, business suffers, the economy slows, and Brexit rumbles on & on. I honestly don't see how this election will change a damn thing. I will be voting, but I am going to wait to see what each candidate in my constituency comes out with (although Philip Davies would have to promise me a giant bag of money, free flights for life, and that Bradford City would be in the Premier League by the middle of the next decade for me to even give him a second thought....)
 

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At the moment the polls suggest a Tory majority of 50 ......

In your dreams !

I think the protest pro-leaving "working class" vote will largely go to the Brexit Party, depriving Boris of a huge chunk of seats he needs for a majority of any size. His deplorable attitude to Scotland will see his party all but wiped out there , again a massive chunk that he will not be able to compensate elsewhere.

Corbyn is not the bogey man so many of you paint him to be. He is a great campaigner and despite his attributable faults he is an essentially honest man who could be kept in check in a Labour-Lib Dem coalition. This would be my preferred outcome ( even if the cost of this is a second Scottish Independence vote) but as things currently stand is unlikely. A strong contingent of Lib-Dem MP's could be the deciding factor, the chance of another taste of power might prove to be irresistible for them.
 

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I think you're confusing the Speaker (Bercow) with the Leader of the House (Rees-Mogg).

Like many others, Brexit has rekindled my interest in politics. Some of the debating in the Commons has been gripping and despite the fact that Rees-Mogg represents all that I detest about a so called British elite, many of his interventions have been poetic and a pleasure to hear.
 

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He looked a coward for avoiding one for so long

This whole cowardice thing makes a mockery of the Fixed Term Parliament Act. If the opposition will always go along with the election for fear of being called chicken, it effectively renders the law redundant.
 

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In your dreams !

I think the protest pro-leaving "working class" vote will largely go to the Brexit Party, depriving Boris of a huge chunk of seats he needs for a majority of any size. His deplorable attitude to Scotland will see his party all but wiped out there , again a massive chunk that he will not be able to compensate elsewhere.

They will also take votes ( perhaps lots of votes) off Labour, especially in northern working class towns. Somewhere like Hartlepool is going to be a Brexit company target and they have a good chance of winning it.

Corbyn is not the bogey man so many of you paint him to be. He is a great campaigner and despite his attributable faults he is an essentially honest man who could be kept in check in a Labour-Lib Dem coalition. This would be my preferred outcome ( even if the cost of this is a second Scottish Independence vote) but as things currently stand is unlikely. A strong contingent of Lib-Dem MP's could be the deciding factor, the chance of another taste of power might prove to be irresistible for them.

Corbyn is about as honest as Johnson. His views on many subjects are crackpot at best and his history of terrorist sympathy ( sorry working for peace by only meeting one side) is well know. He is a lair and a hypocrite of the highest order
 

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Corbyn has apparently said that this election gives a "once-in-a-generation" opportunity to transform the country. I am sure I've heard that before... :D

Didn't you know? Our collective memories have been getting shorter and shorter..a generation is now a just three year period between political epochs :D
 

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Remember, the Speaker of the House thinks food banks are excellent.

I think you're confusing the Speaker (Bercow) with the Leader of the House (Rees-Mogg).

Yes, you are quite right. My only defence is that I usually refer to Rees-Mogg in another way ; 2 words, first word 'complete'.

My apologies to Mr Bercow and any (understandable) distress caused to him or his family by my confusion.
 

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Corbyn was wrong to spend so long pushing for a GE not a referendum. He looked a coward for avoiding one for so long ...

This whole cowardice thing makes a mockery of the Fixed Term Parliament Act. If the opposition will always go along with the election for fear of being called chicken, it effectively renders the law redundant.

The Fixed Term Parliament Act was to prop up the Lib-Con weak government for 5 years. To then trash it a few years later because it is inconvenient is ridiculous, particularly by a PM who had a majority until he lost it by sacking his own MPs. I am not saying Corbyn is a coward, but he should have foreseen that it would be the tag given to him if Johnson called his bluff and he wouldn't then agree to one ... very naive - he is supposed to be a politician.

The true coward is Johnson who hasn't yet told us the time of his demise and the location of the ditch on November 1st as this was his stated preference. Lost yer bottle, Chicken Boris ? Why would anyone vote for such a person ?
 
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