RealTrains07
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This isnt a film premiere. Its a TOC which will most likely be a disaster. First must really be blowing this out if proportion surelyA build-up to an anticlimax no doubt...
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First Trenitalia (Avanti!) WCML branding, naming and livery
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Good to see you’ve already critique them on their service when they haven’t yet started running anything.
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Midland Scottish Railway?
Midland Northern and Scottish Railway (MNSR)?
Whatever it is, it'll have "Railway" in the title because the DafT think Jo and Joanna Numpty can't work out a train by default runs on a railway. Given it's First group though perhaps DILIGAFR might be a better fit.
Midland Northern and Scottish Railway (MNSR)?
Whatever it is, it'll have "Railway" in the title because the DafT think Jo and Joanna Numpty can't work out a train by default runs on a railway. Given it's First group though perhaps DILIGAFR might be a better fit.
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London Midland and Scottish is trademarked by the DfT so you're first suggestion is likely to be the old LMS name. I am tipping LMS as the name seen as it is trademarked by the DfT
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Hardly, rather the opposite. Outside enthusiast circles I suspect approximately nobody knows the Virgin name is about to disappear!
RealTrains07
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Their gonna know soon when their trains start showing up with a new name
Pete_uk
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My money is LMS with a R on the end. The R stands for railway.
What about TFLMS, with the TF being officially "Trains For" but also a subtle hint at the ownership companies (very unlikely I know)
TT-ONR-NRN
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I’m gonna continue to hope for Avanti
Andrew*Debbie
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I Tf... since the for would not be capitalised.
The problem with LMS, LMSR and TfLMS is none of them mention North Wales or North West England. The North Wales services are a substantial part of the franchise.
In any case we don't get to pick the name
The problem with LMS, LMSR and TfLMS is none of them mention North Wales or North West England. The North Wales services are a substantial part of the franchise.
In any case we don't get to pick the name
EE Andy b1
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In any case we don't get to pick the name
How do you know?
Maybe First Trenitalia are on this forum and are waiting for the right suggested name to come up!
Maybe that's the delay. Bletchleyite
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They really aren't. They are a few trains per day as against 9tph into and out of Euston all day, 7 days a week. It's nothing like GWR is to south Wales.
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And?
- London North Eastern Railway doesn't mention Scotland.
- Transpennine Express doesn't mention Scotland - and they have many services which don't cross the Pennines
- East Midland Railway doesn't mention East of England (Norwich) or North West England (Liverpool)
- London Northwest Railway doesn't mention East of England (Bedford) or East Midlands (Northampton)
- Northern doesn't mention East Midlands (Nottingham, Lincoln)
TT-ONR-NRN
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The three trains per hour to Manchester (and to some degree the hourly Liverpool train) - are a substantial part of the franchise though, without a doubt
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On the subject of brand names being used for websites, Virgin did register virginazuma.com!
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Off topic but could this be for their proposed Open Access service?
Andrew*Debbie
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Not a clue. I did once apply to work for Network Rail but didn't even get an interview.
I keep hearing about this HS2 thing. ...
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I'm surely not the only one who thinks of the Peter Kay advert for John Smiths whenever "Avanti" is suggested as a possible name...
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It was for East Coast.
Only in your opinion. Which only counts equal amongst everyone else’s
61653 HTAFC
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No you aren't!
Avanti is a cringeworthy name, but no worse than Virgin Trains with their "wacky" adverts and talking toilets...
EE Andy b1
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Excellent, not seen that in years.
So Avanti, it's not then, or maybe it is. Only 25 days to go...
Pete_uk
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LMW&S London Midland Wales and Scottish railway then!
Better than 'One' at any rate.
Better than 'One' at any rate.
How about QFPNWC * as that doesn't miss anyone out as it doesn't specifically list anywhere, it should also get you quite a high Scrabble score.
*Quite a Few Places North West of the Capital
P.S. I know you can't use proper nouns in Scrabble
P.P.S. for those unaware, I'm not really taking this seriously.
*Quite a Few Places North West of the Capital
P.S. I know you can't use proper nouns in Scrabble
P.P.S. for those unaware, I'm not really taking this seriously.
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Just call it West Coast and be done with it, we had East Coast under DOR which did the job so just call it West Coast with the HS2 services just called HS2.
There saved millions in consultation fees.....
There saved millions in consultation fees.....
TT-ONR-NRN
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Forget LMS and Avanti, what about M&S Express Midland and Scottish, and Express indirectly suggests London.
That’d be a well recognised British brand to succeed Virgin Trains you could even rebrand the shop as an onboard M&S Simply Food
Midland and Scottish, and Express indirectly suggests London.That’d be a well recognised British brand to succeed Virgin Trains
you could even rebrand the shop as an onboard M&S Simply Food Andrew*Debbie
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Or LMNW&S -- London Midland, North West, Wales and Scottish -- Otherwise we leave out the Liverpool and 1tph to Chester
TBH that's why a Name like West Coast is better.
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