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Scotrail Class 385 Discussion
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DaStripedCgull
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I just noticed the other day there are still 380s on the Shotts line, is this going to change to 385s or is it permanent?
So yesterday (21/10) they were showing running 8 car units on the xx:30 services as well as the xx:00. But there seemed to be issues with congestion at Queen street (Possibly unconnected ?) Today they seem to be back to just the xx:00 being 8 car.Hopefully, they need to get all units in service before the timetable change as it should ensure a smoother switchover
It's good to see they're trying things out, plenty of time to get it right
EE Andy b1
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So have Hitachi and Scotrail now got on top of most system faults, doors ,brakes etc on these units now, and are they getting a hefty mileage per causality out of them.
Not heard of too many complaints lately so has the ride quality softened a bit and the, shhhhhhh, the seats!
Not heard of too many complaints lately so has the ride quality softened a bit and the, shhhhhhh, the seats!
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It occurred to me today that, even within the last month or so, it seemed to be routine to have a Hitachi fitter sitting in a corner on any of the 385s I had been on, but I had not seen anyone like that for a while. So yes, they seem to be all settling in nicely
Altnabreac
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This thread mainly gets posted on when:
- A 385 is delivered to Scotland
- Something goes wrong with a 385
Very true! It would be good to get the last delivered and the final 3 into service in plenty of time for the timetable change. I think that 441001 and 002 have already done the accumulation miles as they were test vehicles, so they could be put into service fairly quickly tbf.
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Still the same bad ride quality and rattling, none of the seats "softened up" at all but did anyone actually expect them too?
More guff from the ScotRail PR Machine.
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NorthClyde320
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To summarize the 385 fleet:
Of the 46, 3 cars:
044 delivered 27th Sept not yet in service
001 delivered 9th Oct not yet in service
002 not yet delivered
All other 3 cars (43) delivered and in service.
Of the 24, 4 cars:
All delivered and in service.
020 worked todays 14.51 Cathcart Circle, it left Central 7 mins late and by the time it got Pollokshields West via Cathcart it was 11 mins late, I know this unit goes on to work the 19.03 Edinburgh via Shotts but I hope they get replaced on the Cathcart/Newton come December as they are not suited and wasted on these routes.
Of the 46, 3 cars:
044 delivered 27th Sept not yet in service
001 delivered 9th Oct not yet in service
002 not yet delivered
All other 3 cars (43) delivered and in service.
Of the 24, 4 cars:
All delivered and in service.
020 worked todays 14.51 Cathcart Circle, it left Central 7 mins late and by the time it got Pollokshields West via Cathcart it was 11 mins late, I know this unit goes on to work the 19.03 Edinburgh via Shotts but I hope they get replaced on the Cathcart/Newton come December as they are not suited and wasted on these routes.
I like having the luxury of a 385 at my local station (Newton)
Alternatively and what I mostly do is take the XX:20 Lanark train (a 385) from Glasgow Central and get off at cambuslang and wait for the Larkhall service (Leaves GLC earlier at around XX:16) shortly behind it to take me back to Newton.
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I've been on quite a few over the past fortnight and they've been spot on without exception.
The seats are a bit on the firm side, but otherwise I think they're doing exactly the job they were designed for and are gobbling up thousands of passengers left standing two years ago.
I think this forum needs to spend more time scrutinising Scotrail's HSTs, the 385s are the least of our worries.
The seats are a bit on the firm side, but otherwise I think they're doing exactly the job they were designed for and are gobbling up thousands of passengers left standing two years ago.
I think this forum needs to spend more time scrutinising Scotrail's HSTs, the 385s are the least of our worries.
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The 385s are absolutely fine. The only rattling as such I've noticed has been, as far as I can tell, been associated with wheelslip when accelerating or braking for stations. Only seems to happen in the wet I've noticed. Aside from that, at top speed, they're no problem at all.
Don't know if they will be replaced entirely on the Cathcart Circle routes but I'd be surprised if they were. They'll continue to work certain services I believe, mainly because to remove them entirely would require a wholesale change of the diagrams. The issue mentioned above would probably be more to do with a loss of path - it'd be behind the 1457 Barrhead - not to do with an inability to deal with the route. Whilst the units themselves are overkill for the line, as far as ScotRail are concerned it's ideal because all the drivers are already trained up.
Don't know if they will be replaced entirely on the Cathcart Circle routes but I'd be surprised if they were. They'll continue to work certain services I believe, mainly because to remove them entirely would require a wholesale change of the diagrams. The issue mentioned above would probably be more to do with a loss of path - it'd be behind the 1457 Barrhead - not to do with an inability to deal with the route. Whilst the units themselves are overkill for the line, as far as ScotRail are concerned it's ideal because all the drivers are already trained up.
I agree, no rattles at all on any that I've been on. I don't find the seats hard either, comfortably firm imo.
jamieintercity
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Delivery path for 385002 is now in for Wednesday
DaStripedCgull
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HankyuDentetsu
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Anyone else noticed when heading to Glasgow on a 385, the passenger display will often say "The next station is Cowlairs South Jn." ? Anyone know why this is?
hexagon789
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Perhaps it's a timing point, but the PIS thinks it's a station stop?
Esker-pades
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That is exactly why. Some non-passenger stops are incorrectly and accidentally inputted as passenger stops. Therefore, the PIS displays it.
hexagon789
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Easy enough to fix that surely.
HankyuDentetsu
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Thanks for the answers folks!
Does it actually say it correctly? If so, it probably means it’s using an electronically generated voice rather than splicing together recordings of a real person. I thought all the PISs up to now had used real recordings
HankyuDentetsu
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There's no vocal announcement, only text on the display.
jamieintercity
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Scotrail has tweeted that 385001 has been accepted into service, leaving 385002/44 to enter service
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