Before the train even arrived a display of how busy each carriage was showed up, which is really handy! Only seen that kind of tech deployed on Thameslink.
That has been present for quite some years now.
Before the train even arrived a display of how busy each carriage was showed up, which is really handy! Only seen that kind of tech deployed on Thameslink.
Is there not still an unreserved area by the buffet?Well finally got on an lner one of these today and I do wonder if the people who design, approve, test and sign off stuff ever actually use their product.
The seat - yep you've guessed it, cushion depth isnt adequate at all. I only did edb to NCL today phone and it felt very uncomfortable (standard)and also the way the seats are now fixed. Sitting by the window it's hard to get a foot width (least for me) between the stanchion and the side of the train. Previously, the seats were affixed into the wall and only one one stanchion at the aisle side so plenty of foot room for both passengers.
From York to kgx I was on an old MK4 and the seat cushion and legroom was a massive difference.
The azumas seem to have a lot brighter lighting inside too, not absolutely terrible but could be a bit dimmer .
Didn't move from seat so only a brief experience and ride quality etc seemed ok to me.
Only other gripe is that lner seem to have abandoned publishing non reservable seats so rather than knowing exactly where to head for, it's a case of walking through looking for green lights once the reservations have downloaded.
Is there not still an unreserved area by the buffet?
Today I travelled on three new Hitachi trains: TPE's Nova-1 Manchester Vic-Leeds, LNER's Azuma Leeds-King's Cross and GWR's IET Paddington-Oxford. All three were very impressive and I believe my fellow-passengers were equally impressed. There were minor quibbles about a few details but the overall experience was a serious leap forward in quality.
I don't get this at all. The good things are that their are more seats (or should be if it is not short formed) and the leg room is generally good.Today I travelled on three new Hitachi trains: TPE's Nova-1 Manchester Vic-Leeds, LNER's Azuma Leeds-King's Cross and GWR's IET Paddington-Oxford. All three were very impressive and I believe my fellow-passengers were equally impressed. There were minor quibbles about a few details but the overall experience was a serious leap forward in quality.
I don't know what they are replacing on Man Vic to Leeds but I remember doing Man Pic to Leeds on some sort of Pacer or Sprinter and Paddington to Oxford on a Thames Turbo so it could well seem like a great leap forward to the occasional visitor to those lines... and it is debatable whether it is better or worse than the horrible GWR refit of the HSTs, but I agree that even the harshest critic of older trains would not call the AT300s a big step up from the Intercity 225s that served Leeds - King's Cross for a long time.I don't get this at all. The good things are that their are more seats (or should be if it is not short formed) and the leg room is generally good.
Other than that, the ride quality is not an improvement on what it is replacing and the seats are absolutely dire. I'm afraid I detect no leap forward in quality.
I’m not one to complain about the seats however the complaint is quite rightly justified. It’s like sitting on a metal park bench, I really don’t understand the point of the padding as it doesn’t do anything. The seats on the new Stagecoach and First busses are much comfier, embarrassing for the rail industry to be outdone by busses tbh.
I’m not one to complain about the seats however the complaint is quite rightly justified. It’s like sitting on a metal park bench, I really don’t understand the point of the padding as it doesn’t do anything. The seats on the new Stagecoach and First busses are much comfier, embarrassing for the rail industry to be outdone by busses tbh.
I was recently on First Bus in the Stirling area which had far superior seats to 800s. It's not just the seats, the whole interior is garbage, it's a marked downgrade in quality.
If you were in standard class, would you be happy with the seat comfortability for a 4.5hr journey?
This is a very long thread so apologies if it's discussed already, in the event of a failure how do they moved the failed 80x? Can the dellner equipped locos like the 57/3's haul them?
Are you talking about these?
If so, I don't think they would get a very good reception if they were fitted in a train. They are very obviously bus seats and quite frankly they don't really have a better cushion than train seats do.
Not that I’m blaming the units themselves but ever since the 800/801’s have been introduced to the Airedale line (2 weeks ago or
So?) the 6.37 am Shipley to KX has been late every single day without fail!
1 min early leaving Bradford, 3.5 min late leaving Shipley. Suggests a pathing or congestion issue. I know some colleagues are complaining as it has a knock on effect on the whole Airedale line at rush hour.
This is a very long thread so apologies if it's discussed already, in the event of a failure how do they moved the failed 80x? Can the dellner equipped locos like the 57/3's haul them?
Where possible will always attempt to rescue with another 800/801/802, if all else fails a rescue loco, using emergency coupling which is stored on the train.
The LNER journey planner will show you what is planned for a particular service. The box on the left will include the word “Azuma”. It’s been said before that weekend operations are usually similar to weekdays, ie they are used normally all week now. However for detailed discussion of diagrams there’s a separate thread here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/lner-azuma-class-800-801-diagrams.179677/page-13Quick question as I can’t seem to find a definitive answer elsewhere; what’s the likelihood of Azumas running during Sunday afternoons on Edinburgh > KGX services, specifically this month? Thanks in advance.
The LNER journey planner will show you what is planned for a particular service. The box on the left will include the word “Azuma”. It’s been said before that weekend operations are usually similar to weekdays, ie they are used normally all week now. However for detailed discussion of diagrams there’s a separate thread here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/lner-azuma-class-800-801-diagrams.179677/page-13
Lazzerrini Practico. To some extent I agree that they're obviously a bus seat, but are much softer than a DfT-spec train seat.That's the one yeah!
They are superior to anything fitted to Hitachi units or those equally as garbage ScotRail's 156 refurbs, even my better half made the same comment.
Agreed. I prefer an IET, hard seats and all, over the horrific GWR Mk3 abomination. But I'd take a MK4 any day over an IET, they've been great carriages from day 1, and the Mallard refurb made them even better.I don't know what they are replacing on Man Vic to Leeds but I remember doing Man Pic to Leeds on some sort of Pacer or Sprinter and Paddington to Oxford on a Thames Turbo so it could well seem like a great leap forward to the occasional visitor to those lines... and it is debatable whether it is better or worse than the horrible GWR refit of the HSTs, but I agree that even the harshest critic of older trains would not call the AT300s a big step up from the Intercity 225s that served Leeds - King's Cross for a long time.
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