What has caused the large increase in delays to LNER services recently?

Bald Rick · 6 Nov 2019

johntea said:
Hard to get too upset over delays when the reason is suicide, yet people still manage to moan about how the train service is rubbish and was much better in the British Rail days etc.! (To be clear not having a dig at anyone on here, just what you overhear at stations when such incidents occur...)

The advice today at Leeds for LNER passengers was basically 'catch any other service or combination of services that'll get you to your destination' e.g. via Manchester or Sheffield

Yep two on successive days in similar locations at a similar time. Very unfortunate for all involved.

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Raul_Duke · 7 Nov 2019

johntea said:
Hard to get too upset over delays when the reason is suicide, yet people still manage to moan about how the train service is rubbish and was much better in the British Rail days etc.!

So you’d think....

Monkeyhead · 7 Nov 2019

I reported that tweet, and I never normally bother, but that was a disgraceful thing to say. Was caught up in Tuesday's incident, really feel for the staff involved, it must become a real burden dealing with day after day of disruption.

Saint66 · 7 Nov 2019

The disruption continues for a third day in a row on the ECML following an OHLE issue between Newark and Grantham. Single line working implemented.

30907 · 7 Nov 2019

Saint66 said:
The disruption continues for a third day in a row on the ECML following an OHLE issue between Newark and Grantham. Single line working implemented.

0945 LDS KGX at Claypole waiting Thunderbird.... +200 so far and will finish PBO.

LMS 4F · 7 Nov 2019

Without any figures to back it up it seems that the OHL on the East Coast has far more problems than the West Coast or on the Norwich route. I have heard it said many times that it was done on the cheap, it certainly seems so.

800001 · 7 Nov 2019

LMS 4F said:
Without any figures to back it up it seems that the OHL on the East Coast has far more problems than the West Coast or on the Norwich route. I have heard it said many times that it was done on the cheap, it certainly seems so.

Power trip out caused the initial issue, then the 91 could not regain power.

Mitchell Hurd · 7 Nov 2019

30907 said:
0945 LDS KGX at Claypole waiting Thunderbird.... +200 so far and will finish PBO.

Why does it have to take over 3 (or not far off 4 hours to move an electric train after a power failure? I'm sorry but GWR can recover services more quickly - more like in less than 2 hours.

To be honest it would be so much quicker to get a good size diesel train along side and evacuate passengers on that than wait for a 67.

I bet LNER are glad to be withdrawing the Class 91 loco's - I sense these take far too long to get going when the powers down!

30907 · 7 Nov 2019

Mitchell Hurd said:
Why does it have to take over 3 (or not far off 4 hours to move an electric train after a power failure? I'm sorry but GWR can recover services more quickly - more like in less than 2 hours.

To be honest it would be so much quicker to get a good size diesel train along side and evacuate passengers on that than wait for a 67.

I bet LNER are glad to be withdrawing the Class 91 loco's - I sense these take far too long to get going when the powers down!

90 mins before they declared it a failure (think they'd had to isolate the overhead?) and summoned the 67 from London.
Complicated by having SLW in force on the down to clear part of backlog, which I think added 30 min of delay. It would also have made train to train evacuation difficult. More delay sorting platform at PBO, so total was about +260 there.

And I'd decided not to go in 1st

Mitchell Hurd · 7 Nov 2019

30907 said:
90 mins before they declared it a failure (think they'd had to isolate the overhead?) and summoned the 67 from London.
Complicated by having SLW in force on the down to clear part of backlog, which I think added 30 min of delay. It would also have made train to train evacuation difficult. More delay sorting platform at PBO, so total was about +260 there.

And I'd decided not to go in 1st

I do feel sorry for LNER though - surely this week can't get any worse.

43096 · 7 Nov 2019

Mitchell Hurd said:
I bet LNER are glad to be withdrawing the Class 91 loco's - I sense these take far too long to get going when the powers down!

Unlike the Azuma that was damaged after a PHBT recently that sat for hours with no on board power before the punters were evacuated and the train then sat for the best part of a day before being shifted. All from the type of incident that is sadly too frequent an occurrence. They were very fortunate it was stopped at Ranskill so trains could go through the loop - otherwise they’d have shut the ECML for a day.

gazzaa2 · 7 Nov 2019

Mitchell Hurd said:
I do feel sorry for LNER though - surely this week can't get any worse.

WCML only last week was worse - that was horrendous from the Friday before to last weekend. Every day was chaos.

Can't blame the TOC though for the problems this week and Virgin were mostly blameless last week.

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