dk1
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It's not a nice trait to have in life really.Lack of empathy and a lack of self awareness, combined with self centredness
It's not a nice trait to have in life really.Lack of empathy and a lack of self awareness, combined with self centredness
Its so wonderfully British.Funniest thread ever!
It is quite lovely that some people's biggest concern in life is people eating eggs and sardines on a train.
Long may that be the case!!!
Funniest thread ever!
It is quite lovely that some people's biggest concern in life is people eating eggs and sardines on a train.
Long may that be the case!!!
not to squash in the middle of a 3-seater
It's not a nice trait to have in life really.
If you don't like it - buy a car or other form of self transport.
It is a mass transit system, if people want to eat and you don't like it either move or get off.
No defending the attacker here. I hope they get banned from the network.
By your standards and mine but how many commuters in London practice good etiquette?
It's good etiquette to keep the volume of your personal music down, not to squash in the middle of a 3-seater, to give up your seat to someone that needs it more than you, to move down the train to allow others to board, to not board through a set of doors until others have alighted...etc...etc...
How often do you see this in practice? (especially in London)
Unenforceable, unworkable, plenty would say unreasonable, but I'd ban eating on trains (with the exception of services where the facility to buy food onboard exists or for medical necessity). Partly the smell, partly having to listen to people who can't chew with their mouth closed.
Actions --> consequences. Provocation --> retaliation. Don't like it, don't be a prat, simple.
There's a difference between shouting at someone (which the user you're replying to already has said was wrong), and stabbing someone.What if she pulled a knife and stabbed her ?
If you don't like it - buy a car or other form of self transport.
It is a mass transit system, if people want to eat and you don't like it either move or get off.
There's a difference between shouting at someone (which the user you're replying to already has said was wrong), and stabbing someone.
I would definitely support a ban on hot fast food on public transport, which does work in other countries, or at least signs asking people to think about what they eat in public.
Boiled eggs have a slight aroma but are hardly the smelliest thing, when compared to hot food - burgers, curries, chilli, hot cheese etc
Where do you stop, oranges have a smell, so do wine and beer etc
National Express road coaches (which, treasonously, I often use instead of rail, for financial reasons) have what seems to me, a good compromise: no hot food on the coach, in any circumstances
For the record, I don't agree with the actions of said passenger.As al78 stated. Actions have consequences. It doesn't matter which we support or don't. The second someone takes offense and then decides that its ok to publicly berate that person then there is a risk of escalation. If you start verbally assaulting someone and they take ubrage and pull a knife who is at fault ? Who gets to decide what is acceptable or not[?] Clearly a [judge] found that her actions deserved a hard penalty.
I am reminded of the Lee Pomeroy case where he was viciously stabbed to death over the smallest of slights. Instead of tolerance and patience, it escalated. There was action that led to consequence and then provocation that led to a reaction. Fear should never win and the extreme cases are few and far between but you cannot go around judging other people based on your personal standards and then carrying out summary justice in whatever way you please. It is just as ignorant and stupid to treat others in such a fashion over something small and ridiculous as eating an egg on a train. This time it cost her £1,500. It could have turned out worse.
There are ScotRail guards who 'hide' in the back cab. And, some guards don't enforce some rules for whatever reason.And coach drivers, particularly Scottish ones[1], don't tolerate any messing on this. "Ye cannae et chaps on this cooach!" - while grabbing them and throwing them in the locker.
[1] Scottish Guards are also a different breed from English ones - no hiding in the back cab for them and no messing tolerated. In some ways it's more like England used to be, and I really like it.
Pretty obvious two sides to this story. What sort of person eats eggs on a train.
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It always surprises me that for a fair number of people, boiled eggs (especially hard-boiled) have an objectionable smell -- but that is undoubtedly the case. And, I personally have a very poor sense of smell -- which on the whole, is a thing which I'm glad of.