Woah, I haven't read this thread since around post 166. Lots of catching up for me to do!
Dont forget some Pacers were ordered for the swanline services when it commenced
...even though Pacers stopped being built in 1987 and Swanline was launched in 1994...?
I take it that you guys know that the Cambrian Line will be on Channel 5 on Friday 15 November 2019 at 8pm:>
https://www.channel5.com/show/worlds-most-scenic-railway-journeys/
I'll be sure to watch that
Only one thing for it then, more 37/4s and MK2s anyone?
Would create more security guard jobs...
It's quite concerning that this tweet has a picture showing the 230s for TfW still being built
https://twitter.com/swalesmetroprof/status/1194142992547889152?s=19
Yes it is due to them being very delayed, but in my opinion it's good to see that they
are being built!
Thanks. Tbh it's quite worrying that TfW don't have derogations granted for Pacers and the non-compliant 150s/153s/158s yet. A serious crisis could be looming if DfT plays hardball.
30 Pacers and 19 150s and 10 153s I can understand, but 2 158s...?
Absolutely , if the DfT play hard ball I'm sure TfW will argue it isn't their fault, the train manufacturers delayed deliveries and its their fault. Where I'm sure the DfT will argue that TfW knew in plenty of time that there would be delays to the deliveries of the new / refurbished rolling stock and should have had contingencies or come up with some sort of a plan to speed up the modifications before now.
What you're saying in the second sentence would be unfair of the DfT. TfW were held back by Arriva on that.
Are all 170s expected to be in Wales by the deadline? (I know this overlaps with the other thread but hear me out)
Yes, but I can't see this happening because many of them have gone to Tyseley for dilapidation repairs.
By the wiki count (sprinkle with salt) there are 30 Pacers in service alongside 36 Sprinters
eh...?
if a number of 153s can get degradations if coupled to other PRMd 153s could they partially free up 150s to be coupled to Pacers to operate on the core Valleys lines? That on its own won't be enough however could surely mitigate the problem somewhat but again that won't be anywhere near enough.
I take it you mean derogations...? They could do without any further degradations
Sorry I can't answer your actual question
Reported elsewhere that 769450 has been accepted by Northern.
good news, apart from the fact that none of the 36 units across their have 3 operators have entered service, and 5...? have been delivered across 2 of those operators...
I see that the majority of TfW 158s between Birmingham and Shrewsbury are now 2 car vice 4, so 158s can be released to cover shortages elsewhere.
I think this has been happening for quite a while
This has been explained numerous times, but evidently some people still don’t understand.
where...?