northernchris
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I was on 195115 this morning which didn't have working PIS but the exterior indicators were showing not in service. It doesn't create a great impression
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I was on 195115 this morning which didn't have working PIS but the exterior indicators were showing not in service. It doesn't create a great impression
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Both my journeys this morning and afternoon on 195s had no working PIDs and guards had to resort to announcements.
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195107 was at Blackpool North at 0022.
I was on a 331 this evening the PIS seems to have been working ok. The 195 before that was showing it's mac address and other details on the screens outside.
Based on the three 195 journeys I have made in the last two days they PISs are all dead at the moment. On two if these occasions this has included the external head PID destination on the train.
I have noticed in the last week that the 195 doors (and 331s) have a problem with condensation due to the interior panel being metal which is colder than the surrounding interior panels. Maybe CAF had the right idea in Spain but not in the UK. The interior of the door panel ends up having water droplets on it and which also leads to condensation on the glass due to the proximity of the cold metal panel.
Bletchleyite
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That's not the reason for it, the reason for it is that the door window is, bizarrely in 2019, single-glazed.
childwallblues
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195016 should have been delivered to Edge Hill today.
Carriage 103016 was noted on an Allellys trailer on Menlove Avenue, Liverpool at 1300 today.
Carriage 103016 was noted on an Allellys trailer on Menlove Avenue, Liverpool at 1300 today.
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This train is the Northern service to York... the next stop is... Coming to a service tomorrow...
It was working on 195116 this afternoon, but seems to have been updated. The auto-announcer spiel was different, and the 'live' timings were working correctly.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Has any particular Class 195/1 unit a bad fault record since coming into service?
northernchris
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May just be coincidence, but I've seen 195110 been declared a failure 3 times now
Xenophon PCDGS
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I'm sure that was the unit that we were waiting for mid-afternoon that came into Lancaster about 30 minutes late (during the last 10 days) on a Barrow-in-Furness to Manchester Airport service, having developed a door fault in the region of Cark station, which then proceeded to cancel the three planned stops on the Styal Line. Those stops were not mentioned as being cancelled by the train information system until much later after that and the train staff told quite a number of Heald Green intending disembarkees (a family party of six amongst them) that they should leave the train at Manchester Piccadilly and await another service there that would stop at Heald Green.
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195116 was at Blackpool North at 0505.
195002 didn't do so well and spent a while in the slums on Newton Heath after brake issues, not sure if it failed multiple times or just one major fault. You might remember 195001/007 were paired up for a while and were the only two car sets along with 002 which had been in service.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Are they not Class 195/0 2 car units? I was enquiring about the Class 195/1 3 car units.
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Doors, wipers and now brakes. How on earth, none of these are novel fitments?
Grumpy Git
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Currently enjoying 195.114 on the 1H43 08:32 from LPY to MIA.
Wonderful in comparison to what we had previously. Great ride, super quiet for a DMU. Seats are a bit firm though.
Monitors are working correctly as well and the announcements are a lesson in sound quality and clarity. MCO platform announcers t
please take note.
Wonderful in comparison to what we had previously. Great ride, super quiet for a DMU. Seats are a bit firm though.
Monitors are working correctly as well and the announcements are a lesson in sound quality and clarity. MCO platform announcers t
please take note.
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Had one Friday, announcements all working good, didn’t seem any issues with the external doors, though they may be a bit quicker closing automatically than a 185, and may catch out those who aren’t familiar. Seats as comfortable as they need to be.
Screens weren’t working, but I rarely pay them any heed anyway, but perhaps the biggest issue was the toilet door which had a mind of it’s own, taking a few attempts to close at all, then was a good chance that the spring loaded lock would open the door. Wouldn’t have been as much of an issue if there was another ‘old fashioned’ toilet on board.
Screens weren’t working, but I rarely pay them any heed anyway, but perhaps the biggest issue was the toilet door which had a mind of it’s own, taking a few attempts to close at all, then was a good chance that the spring loaded lock would open the door. Wouldn’t have been as much of an issue if there was another ‘old fashioned’ toilet on board.
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Toilets are a curious subject on trains. Last year I was on a lightly loaded 153 between Barnetby and Market Rasen and saw the toilet used by 3 passengers in that short distance, young and old. At my station trains can be 142, 150, 156, 158 or 185 but the most asked question by alightees is 'where's the nearest toilet?'
It always amuses me to see the braille instructions around train toilets as I wonder how anyone with poor sight finds the signage and then the controls.
But I'm wandereing off topic. The 195 toilet looked good on the only unit I've been on, but I didn't use it. Got off and used station facility at Victoria!
Manchester Airport to Liverpool Lime Street via Warrington Central
Manchester Airport to Barrow-in-Furness / Windermere via Wigan North Western
Manchester Victoria to Leeds via Halifax
Chester to Leeds via Warrington Bank Quay, Rochdale and Halifax
I suppose a good question here would be, when is a route a route? The Manchester Victoria to Leeds service could be considered a short-working of that from Chester to Leeds, it follows the same route (apart from starting in a bay platform at Victoria) but it does run hourly throughout the day, whereas most scheduled 195 short-workings (i.e. those starting/finishing at Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Oxford Road, Preston, and Lancaster) operate only occasionally, and usually (but not always) at the beginning/end of normal service hours.
So the only additions I can make to the above list are:
Manchester Airport to Barrow-in-Furness via Bolton (very few, and they don't all make station stops - but then not all the ones via Wigan North Western actually stop there);
Manchester Airport to Blackpool North (one journey per day, one way, SuX);
Liverpool Lime Street to Ellesmere Port (one journey per day, one way, SuX), also short workings Ellesmere Port - Helsby;
Ellesmere Port - Leeds (could be considered a variation of Chester - Leeds).
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Philip
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Is the 22:34 Man Airport-Blackpool booked to remain a 195 working after the new timetable?
Are any going to be used on Alderley Edge to Southport, or the Clitheroe services?
Are any going to be used on Alderley Edge to Southport, or the Clitheroe services?
Southport to Alderley Edge/ Stalybridge remains as pairs of sprinters (and 142s) until the 769s are introduced next spring. Clitheroe will also remain as sprinters.
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