What I find interesting about the Leamington - Banbury line being blocked is that ticket acceptance has been agreed with a number of operators including South Western Railway, who don’t serve anywhere near the route. Probably due to XC services between Basingstoke and Bournemouth being disrupted due to the issues elsewhere. It really shows how big the XC network is...
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Flooding at multiple locations on XC (also some EMR and GWR), lines blocked (14/11/2019)
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That's your definition. Others would disagree. That's the point.
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Slightly off topic but I thought Derby was redeveloped where only CrossCountry services (and I guess the EMR Crewe services) can excess it? Unless a 222 was then used on a Crewe service.
But surely that's the point of having an undefined term like "essential travel". It's an instruction to not travel unless your personal circumstances make you believe it is essential to do so, and giving you information that your journey will likely be delayed or disrupted and you are making the journey with that knowledge.
If it was supposed to mean "don't travel unless it's a life or death matter" they'd just stop running the trains entirely and use taxis for the handful of people it applied to.
A trip to the Pub, Cinema, or a Party would be non essential, as would possibly a trip to Tesco! but going to work, depending on what that job is, would be essential !
Yuup..Railways fault it's flooded !
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You just can’t get there off P5/6.
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I would much rather be stuck on a train than in a car during flooding.
Cotswold Line now closed again between Moreton-in-Marsh and Worcester. Line expected to be closed for the rest of the day
The issue is very high water levels on the River Avon at Evesham, where the bridges taking the line over the river east and west of the station both have piers in the middle of the river.
Yesterday's problems with water on the tracks were at Moreton-in-Marsh and the north end of Chipping Campden tunnel.
From GWR Journeycheck
Hopefully Journeycheck updates are going to improve as the day wears on - it says the 09.21 Paddington to Worcester has been diverted between didcot and Worcester - but it has just reached Oxford 20 minutes late, after being held at Appleford then crawling from there to Oxford. Someone may have though it could just go back towards Didcot and head straight along the West curve to Swindon - but the passengers on board for Oxford and Cotswold Line stations may not have appreciated that idea.
The issue is very high water levels on the River Avon at Evesham, where the bridges taking the line over the river east and west of the station both have piers in the middle of the river.
Yesterday's problems with water on the tracks were at Moreton-in-Marsh and the north end of Chipping Campden tunnel.
From GWR Journeycheck
Hopefully Journeycheck updates are going to improve as the day wears on - it says the 09.21 Paddington to Worcester has been diverted between didcot and Worcester - but it has just reached Oxford 20 minutes late, after being held at Appleford then crawling from there to Oxford. Someone may have though it could just go back towards Didcot and head straight along the West curve to Swindon - but the passengers on board for Oxford and Cotswold Line stations may not have appreciated that idea.
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Some London services were divided via Stenson to get to Derby (1F35 and 1F40 definitely went that way) in which the only platforms from Birmingham and Crewe direction is 1 to 4. The Crewe services were still in the hands of 153's.
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I don't understand why the London services are running through Long Eaton without stopping, means Long Eaton has trains passing but no service (XC still bypassing Derby, local services not running Derby toNottingham still).
Station unsafe due to flooding?
Flooding still around the station so unsafe to exit/enter?
Not sure why but the Sheffield trains that are running are the fast ones. As I passed through derby just gone 1600 the boards were showing the 1611 Newark service as running so the Matlock - Newarks may be running though now along with XC services.
Didn't say it was. Just said it's getting to the point where i'm weary of traveling if there's heavy rain forecast because the line will probably get flooded and then i'm stranded. It's winter, it rains a lot.
Previously i've only really looked out for particularly bad weather (i.e. storms, snow fall). Anything out the ordinary now and the trains are up the wall. Problem is, the trains now are packed to capacity at full service, so anything goes wrong and it is chaos.
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The Avon peaked here early afternoon at the highest level since the record floods of July 2007. Have seen some pretty big trees in the river. It's not expected to fall much overnight.
We had the average rainfall for the whole of November fall in Sheffield in one day last week. It's hardly stopped raining for five minutes since then. This isn't a bit of drizzle unable to run away because nobody can be bothered to unblock a few drains, this is a significant, unusual, amount of water, that has now mostly run into the flat low lying areas and has nowhere else to run.
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Cambrian between Welshpool and Shrewsbury has now reopened but with a 5mph speed limit through the affected area, so some delays likely.
I'm the same, at least in a car there are usually alternative options.
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I'd say the opposite nowadays. You're effectively trapped in a train, totally dependant on other people. With my own car I can divert when, and wherever, I feel is appropriate for the conditions.
Not just Sheffield though. And only a few weeks ago I was caught up in the chaos coming back from London when the line was flooded around Stafford/Rugeley and the WCML was down all evening. Ever since then i'm looking at the weather forecast before getting on a train.
No cancellations from Burton towards Birmingham. Nottingham services were diverted via the castle donnington branch (avoiding Derby) some stop orders were placed on the Bristol services to keep a hourly service from Derby.
also if you travel by car you can take a load of food, drink, clothes, reading material etc that you couldn’t easily take on a train trip. Toilet is the biggest issue if you get caught in a big jam, particularly on a motorway.
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Latest from GWR is the Cotwold Line will remain closed between Shrub Hill and Moreton until "end of service today" - doesn't actually say that service will resume tomorrow though.
Avon is continuing to fall, but still in high flood
Avon is continuing to fall, but still in high flood
The Cotswold Line has previously seen trains terminated at Moreton before though, such as in the recent platform extension work (I say recent, it was pretty much 1 year ago this weekend), so hopefully the service won't be too bad!
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The flooding near Long Eaton has caused a signalling fault which is being worked on, the line is open but currently cross-country are running with up to 15min delays Derby<->Nottingham, no EMR services DBY<->NOT but EMR tickets can be used on XC.
Edit: RT trains shows XC running with minimal or no delays.
Edit: RT trains shows XC running with minimal or no delays.
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The move of new stock from Portbury to Crewe on a Friday was cancelled due to this flooding and no replacement working has yet been timetabled, which presumably means everything is still sat at Portbury (locos 47815 + cl57) and the poor ROG drivers are sampling the delights of the Travelodge at Gordano Services.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04693/2019-11-15/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K04693/2019-11-15/detailed
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