Are 67s still doing Manchester to Holyhead?

PHILIPE · 4 Oct 2019

mrcaa said:
Was an absolute nightmare as the next train was only 2 cars and was diverted to 13b at the last few seconds so lots of us couldn’t get on. I walked to Victoria and got the Northern one after that as those platforms were dangerously crowded as usual. I wonder if the unit with the dodgy brakes is the same one that started moving at Earlestown when people were still getting off a few months ago?

The 1715 today is pre-arranged to skip Oxford Rd due to being formed 2 vice 4

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mrcaa · 4 Oct 2019

PHILIPE said:
The 1715 today is pre-arranged to skip Oxford Rd due to being formed 2 vice 4

When did they announce it? You’d be pretty hacked off if you were already there. Luckily the 16:50 was only about 5 minutes late which basically counts as early for Manchester.

PHILIPE · 4 Oct 2019

mrcaa said:
When did they announce it? You’d be pretty hacked off if you were already there. Luckily the 16:50 was only about 5 minutes late which basically counts as early for Manchester.

Timed on Journey Check at 1441 so really early

Bovverboy · 5 Oct 2019

PHILIPE said:
The 1715 today is pre-arranged to skip Oxford Rd due to being formed 2 vice 4

I thought it was the 1752 which was diagrammed for 2x175/0, and the 1715 was 1x175/1. Have things changed?

PHILIPE · 5 Oct 2019

Bovverboy said:
I thought it was the 1752 which was diagrammed for 2x175/0, and the 1715 was 1x175/1. Have things changed?

I thought it was too now you come to mention it.

FrodshamJnct · 24 Oct 2019

67010 has developed a fault this afternoon so 175104 taking over for the rest of today.

Bovverboy · 24 Oct 2019

Tom Maddox said:
67010 has developed a fault this afternoon so 175104 taking over for the rest of today.

Lost ten minutes between Bangor and Valley on 0953 ex-Picc, then cancelled Holyhead - Chester.

FrodshamJnct · 1 Nov 2019

67010 taken out of service today at WBQ due to wheel flats. Went ECS to Crewe CS via Chester.

FrodshamJnct · 8 Nov 2019

67013 low on fuel as it couldn’t get to Crewe last night so replaced by a 175 on the Manchester today.

craigybagel · 8 Nov 2019

Tom Maddox said:
67013 low on fuel as it couldn’t get to Crewe last night so replaced by a 175 on the Manchester today.

Indeed. It's back in Crewe now though, it picked up the end of its diagram at Chester.

hobbm013 · 10 Nov 2019

Are there no fueling facilities at Chester DMU depot?

PHILIPE · 10 Nov 2019

hobbm013 said:
Are there no fueling facilities at Chester DMU depot?

The Depot is exclusively an Alstom Depot for the 175s although TFW fuel other units there by arrangement

craigybagel · 10 Nov 2019

The staff at Chester depot won't be trained on how to fuel a 67 - plus there isn't anybody qualified to drive trains on the depot also qualified to drive 67s.

CHAPS2034 · 10 Nov 2019

Tom Maddox said:
67013 low on fuel as it couldn’t get to Crewe last night so replaced by a 175 on the Manchester today.

Not quite. It operated 1H83 Chester - Manchester leaving Chester 37 late arriving at Piccadilly 38 late. It then formed the 1D34 MAN -HHD leaving Piccadily 6 late.

All was going swimmingly (sorry about that...) until we got about a mile outside Chester. The conductor had already done his announcement for passengers for connections to change at Chester. Then almost immediately he then told us that he had just been informed that the train would be terminating at Chester (in P2) due to a fault with the engine and that passengers for Holyhead should transfer across the platform to P3B for another unit awaiting for them - it was a 3 coach 175. Driver told me that the termination was due to low fuel.

When I returned through Chester station to catch the 1855 to Crewe, the 67 and coaches were still stabled in P2.

craigybagel · 10 Nov 2019

CHAPS2034 said:
When I returned through Chester station to catch the 1855 to Crewe, the 67 and coaches were still stabled in P2.

Indeed, as stated above it remained in Chester until it took over from the 175 at 20:47 to Crewe, and then went on to the shed as normal. It seemingly didn't have enough fuel to do the full diagram for the day, and that was the easiest way to get it back to Crewe. Should be back out tomorrow morning all being well.

PHILIPE · 11 Nov 2019

CHAPS2034 said:
Not quite. It operated 1H83 Chester - Manchester leaving Chester 37 late arriving at Piccadilly 38 late. It then formed the 1D34 MAN -HHD leaving Piccadily 6 late.

All was going swimmingly (sorry about that...) until we got about a mile outside Chester. The conductor had already done his announcement for passengers for connections to change at Chester. Then almost immediately he then told us that he had just been informed that the train would be terminating at Chester (in P2) due to a fault with the engine and that passengers for Holyhead should transfer across the platform to P3B for another unit awaiting for them - it was a 3 coach 175. Driver told me that the termination was due to low fuel.

When I returned through Chester station to catch the 1855 to Crewe, the 67 and coaches were still stabled in P2.

How did it run into a West facing Bay at Chester when arriving from the East on 1D34. Did it reverse ? Appreciate a DVT in situ

LNW-GW Joint · 11 Nov 2019

Something very odd this morning with Gerald according to RTT.
Cancelled, and replaced with an ECS from Crewe to Cardiff in the same path, via Chester.

Y Ddraig Coch · 11 Nov 2019

LNW-GW Joint said:
Something very odd this morning with Gerald according to RTT.
Cancelled, and replaced with an ECS from Crewe to Cardiff in the same path, via Chester.

There were works on over the weekend so no trains from Llandudno Junction. Bus replacements to Holyhead.

Possibly Gerald wasn't at Holyhead to do this mornings run so it is going down to Cardiff to do the return run this afternoon and it was probably replaced with a 175 or 158 this morning.

CHAPS2034 · 11 Nov 2019

PHILIPE said:
How did it run into a West facing Bay at Chester when arriving from the East on 1D34. Did it reverse ? Appreciate a DVT in situ

Sorry - my mistake. It was P1 - the east facing bay on the south side of the station. So straight in.

craigybagel · 11 Nov 2019

CHAPS2034 said:
Sorry - my mistake. It was P1 - the east facing bay on the south side of the station. So straight in.

Indeed. I'm not entirely sure it would fit in P2 anyway.

craigybagel · 11 Nov 2019

LNW-GW Joint said:
Something very odd this morning with Gerald according to RTT.
Cancelled, and replaced with an ECS from Crewe to Cardiff in the same path, via Chester.

Gerald was in Crewe over the weekend for some maintenance work. I'm guessing with the engineering work they wouldn't have been able to get it back to Holyhead ready for this morning.

LNW-GW Joint · 11 Nov 2019

craigybagel said:
Gerald was in Crewe over the weekend for some maintenance work. I'm guessing with the engineering work they wouldn't have been able to get it back to Holyhead ready for this morning.

It was originally scheduled to start today from Llandudno Jn.
Virgin managed to run their early trains along the coast today.
In the end, the ECS Crewe to Cardiff ran very late (140m or so).
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O57869/2019-11-11/detailed

FrodshamJnct · 16 Nov 2019

Mark 4s to be introduced on the Manchester set from 16th December. Hoping to be on the first run of these.

craigybagel · 16 Nov 2019

Tom Maddox said:
Mark 4s to be introduced on the Manchester set from 16th December. Hoping to be on the first run of these.

Source?

FrodshamJnct · 16 Nov 2019

craigybagel said:
Source?

Class 67 group on Facebook.

craigybagel · 17 Nov 2019

Tom Maddox said:
Class 67 group on Facebook.

Thanks. Any idea what their source is?

FrodshamJnct · 17 Nov 2019

craigybagel said:
Thanks. Any idea what their source is?

No, sorry, it was from one of the members. Hoping they’re reliable.

mrcaa · 4 Dec 2019

The locos have disappeared this week. It’s been rammed 3-car 175s so far so roll on the 16th if we’re going to get that 4th car back again.

Jamesrob637 · 4 Dec 2019

Still on for 67 + Mk4 after 16 Dec?

FrodshamJnct · 4 Dec 2019

Jamesrob637 said:
Still on for 67 + Mk4 after 16 Dec?

Not heard that the plans have been changed so should be, yes.

Are 67s still doing Manchester to Holyhead?

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