anthony263
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I think a lot of people are thinking the same especially as they were only a stopgap and were leaving in 2023 after tfw gets its class 755s
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I think a lot of people are thinking the same especially as they were only a stopgap and were leaving in 2023 after tfw gets its class 755s
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I think the 'lessons learnt' from the 769 and 230 projects is that don't expect that slinging diesel engines underneath 30+ year old EMUs will be a 'quick fix' to chronic DMU shortages, which is how the 769 and 230 projects were initially sold.
TfW are now paying a very heavy price for the faith that was put in the 769 project 2/3 years ago, to provide a quick capacity fix and cover for the PRM mods project
TfW are now paying a very heavy price for the faith that was put in the 769 project 2/3 years ago, to provide a quick capacity fix and cover for the PRM mods project
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TfW is getting 755s?
Cardiff123
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Stadler Flirts, yes
ivzem
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FLIRTs, class designation TBC, in a three-car and four-car trimode and a four-car diesel only version.
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anamyd
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The TOPS numbers for the brand new stock are still TBC, but the final fleet will be 77 "196-like" DMUs, 35 "755-like" units (some TMUs and some DEMUs), 36 "399-like" tram-trains, 12 Class 170 DMUs, 5 Class 230 DEMUs, and Mark 4 coaches on the 67s.
Who reckons not all 9 of the 769s will be in service before they're due to leave the fleet...?
NewSt
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I’d only heard about the Civities, the tram-trains, the 230s and the mark 4 carriages.
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no worries
the 170s will move on to different routes after the brand new stock has entered service (and indeed the 769s are due to leave the fleet).I'd really like to see some of the refurbed 175s stay.
Would the 175 fit along the Cumbrian coast?
PHILIPE
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As far as Millom
I'd like to see ALL of the 175s stay, and/or the 24 'Welsh' 158s. Hell, I'd be happy to keep everything except the Pacers, 150s and possibly the 153s and use the 769s and 170s on a new Swansea metro system.no worries
I'd really like to see some of the refurbed 175s stay.
I think they have specified 'train-like' tram-trains; since the other part of the Metro will be using the tri-mode FLIRTs and both fleets are from Stadler I'd guess (and it is just a guess) that the floor height will be the same as the Anglian FLIRTs.
PHILIPE
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There is a Metro thread here full of discussion:-
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/south-wales-metro.117763/page-95#post-4252866
It is a very lengthy thread ,which contains the info to plough through, so somebody more in the know could summarise for you to answer your query
Cardiff123
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No, platforms are not being lowered. The City Link tram-trains for the Valleys will be high floor trams, running under 25 kV wires. Post anymore Qs in the thread PHILIPE linked to.
PHILIPE
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According to the Northern 769 thread, TFW 769006 should be travelling from Castle Donington to Canton this coming Friday but no schedule has as yet, appeared on RTT
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Supposed to be 2 X ROG 47's arriving Canton Pullmans at 15.00. Will be looking out for them.
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I'm not interested in capturing it if it's loco-hauled. Same reason I didn't film "002" or "008"
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Nice to see a few different locos apart from the usual 66's.
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Friday....
anthony263
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Heard the 47s are taking 769008 back to castle donington after they've delivered 006.
Read we can expect a tfw 769 going to crewe to do 15000 fault free mileage runs.
Read we can expect a tfw 769 going to crewe to do 15000 fault free mileage runs.
319 barely managed that in service
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Great to see them accumulate miles but has one been taken up the Rhymney valley yet to make sure it fits?
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I'm guessing they've already checked that.
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Do you know if this is still going ahead? Can't find anything on RTT. Would like to photo it.Friday....
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Thanks. I was searching on Pengam junction as that is where I head. See if I can get down. Good news.
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I might go to have a look for a laugh 
As I said before, I won't be capturing it if it's not even moving under its own power 
As I said before, I won't be capturing it if it's not even moving under its own power - Status