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Scottish Electrification updates & discussion
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you drill a hole, fill it with concrete and cast bolts in it, like what they did before piling became the norm. Drilling the massive hole in the rock is the challenge, but not impossible.
Or even just drill holes in the rock and resin-bond anchor bolts straight into it...
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Before piling became the norm, masts were planted in the concrete while it cured.
Sometimes, sometimes not. Often the foundations were poured with a mast shaped lightweight ‘mould’ (wood, plastic or polystyrene) left in where the mast would go. Then the mast train would come along and drop them in, backfilled with grout or sometimes resin.
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According to an article in Private Eye this work has been postponed due to protests from neighbouring residents.
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Who, the local birds?
Christ , i noticed they have started it at the very end of the branch at EK station.
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Some guys too I believe!Who, the local birds?
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pun intended I presume!
I actually saw a couple of guys with tree pruning equipment accessing the line just south of Clarkston station a week or two back so I’m not convinced it is stopped. They took so much away a year or so back that I’m surprised they need to do more.
Last night i noticed some plant and access point just to east of Busby station .
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According to a post on a local Facebook page, Network Rail are restarting this work in the coming days.
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It’s on Tw*tter and NetworkRail’s media pages
https://www.networkrailmediacentre....invited-to-find-out-more-about-tree-cutting-1
or is this a different operation?
https://www.networkrailmediacentre....invited-to-find-out-more-about-tree-cutting-1
or is this a different operation?
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IIRC the previous notice covered Crosmyloof to East Kilbride, this is extending it to Barrhead.
I've noticed they have cut the trees at the end of the line at EK.
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Hello just seeing this post.
Sub Contractor were on site around this time installing cess drainage in the area.
Sub Contractor were on site around this time installing cess drainage in the area.
Is that related to electrification?
No, just routine drainage renewals.
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Have received a letter from Network Rail regarding resumption of clearance work and potential future developments.
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Great news
Having a chainsaw gang working midnight-5am at the bottom of your garden would be a touch sub optimal!
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I’ll live with that minor inconvenience if they electrify the line and deploy suitable rolling stock.
Heres hoping . I have to use the train this week as the bus has stopped at my bit . I used to stay in Busby , was good getting the train and 20 mins into town
New to this thread, but would like to know who is it that makes the decisions about what's going to be electrified, and when? Scottish Government / National Rail / Scotrail / whomever? And when are the next announcements expected, and what's likely to be included, in addition to East Kilbride, and what are the expected completion dates? Many thanks
The Scottish Government makes the decisions and Network Rail is responsible for delivery. The decarbonisation action plan will be published later in the Spring and will set out how decarbonisation by 2035 will be achieved.
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Looks like they are finally getting the EK line electrified. About time, walking through Central High Level, I've seen all of these EMU's on multiple different lines that the DMU service to EK sticks out like a sore thumb. Not to mention, it's a highly populated area.
When it eventually happens, what stock would they use? Are there actually much EMU's available? They should have kept a handful of 314's around on the Circle (no Gourock or Wemyss Bay diagrams though, disgrace that they were used in Inverclyde for so long) which would have allowed a few 320's, 318's and 380's to go on EK (and potentially Barrhead) duties.
Maybe time for more 320/4's to come up (I can't stand those units and purposely try to avoid them on North Clyde & Argyle Lines but any extra EMU's are welcome if needed).
When it eventually happens, what stock would they use? Are there actually much EMU's available? They should have kept a handful of 314's around on the Circle (no Gourock or Wemyss Bay diagrams though, disgrace that they were used in Inverclyde for so long) which would have allowed a few 320's, 318's and 380's to go on EK (and potentially Barrhead) duties.
Maybe time for more 320/4's to come up (I can't stand those units and purposely try to avoid them on North Clyde & Argyle Lines but any extra EMU's are welcome if needed).
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If the East Kilbride and Barrhead lines are electrified it will probably be timed quite nicely for the class 318/320 units to be replaced. I would expect sometime around 2025-28 a new order of electric units will be required for the Glasgow area.
My own view is that any new units should be concentrated on the North Clyde/Argyle Line routes - this way these lines would all be served by the same type of unit allowing more flexibility. The Class 334 units, of which there are 40, can cascade onto the South bank services - Cathcart/Neilston/Newton, Inverclyde, and hopefully, East Kilbride and Barrhead too, working alongside class 380s.
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Would be great to have new units on the North Clyde & Argyle Lines, although I'll miss the 334's on the North Clyde. I've taken a few 334 services on the Argyle, they seemed quite well-matched to that line, better than the 318's and 320's. I would say that we definitely need new trains for Edinburgh trains and hopefully the Springburn-Dumbarton and Airdrie-Balloch services as well, but I would cascade many of the 334's back to the Argyle, with perhaps a few diagrams operated by the new trains (and maybe 1 334 diagram on Airdrie-Balloch for traction knowledge).
Cathcart Circle/Neilston/Newton is where it gets dicey as I've read on here in the past that those services can cause overheating issues on 334's and 380's, so the new EMU might also need to be a good fit for that line. Also, I was on a Newton 380 to Mount Florida a few days ago and I just didn't feel that the train was right for that route at all. By contrast, the 318 back to Central seemed to fit much better.
Inverclyde was 334 operated about 10 years ago. I wonder how well that worked (I've only been there on 380's) and if they would be willing to cascade them back (although to be fair, anything is better than the 314 service that they got).
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