lord rathmore
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A 755/4 at Ipswich platform 1 this morning. So I assume they're being introduced on the East Suffolk line Ipswich to Lowestoft?
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Felixstowe branch (I think except the first round trip), unless it was testing.
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Good they did, otherwise they would have had the class 185 problem, where they are speed restricted slower than sprinter speeds because of their heavy weight.
Only 3 left, but with one gone for tyre turning and one waiting spares only one in service today.
Services to Felixstowe begun this week. A unit runs ECS from Norwich and then back again as they are not yet running on the East Suffolk.
Possibly Ipswich - Cambridge and Ipswich - Lowestoft in the next few weeks.
dk1
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Trowse Junction.
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Looks like we'll be having at least one diagram on the Ips-Cambridge route as a 755 next week - just saw a poster at Thurston saying some trains not stopping at Elmswell as of Monday. Presume ASDO not yet nailed there?. Shame it wasn't sorted in time for the Bury Christmas Fayre, 2 and even the lonely 3 coach unit, totally rammed flying up and down the line today.
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Except Friday 22/11 when there were random ones at Liverpool Street due to a major signalling failure between East Ham and Fenchurch Street.
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Now put back to tomorrow, apparently. Trains are making all the stops today.
The stops that the 755s are missing out, will apply to all stock on those diagrams, so if a 156 or a 153 is in for the booked 755, they will miss out the same stops.
The stops were reinstated yesterday. Was that just a teething issue?
That will be interesting
we only got the email yesterday outlining the arrangements ! (Kennett / Elmswell and Dullingham) ! so be it a 755 or a 153 certain trains will be fast at certain stations ! (oddly Dullingham only has one not stopping)That will be interesting
It's the same as was done for Brundall Gardens and Haddiscoe. If you take them out and leave them out everyone knows where they stand. Otherwise you need to start messing with special stop or not to stop orders and it starts getting a total mess.
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Just watched the 755 pull into Bury St Edmunds on the Cambridge service. Looking forward to hearing the opinions of my commuting friends this evening
One 755 seems to be missing from the Norwich-Cambridge service today (0533 NRW-CBG, 0700 CBG-NRW, 0840 NRW-CBG and 1010 CBG-NRW all cancelled so far). Is this just bad luck, or have they pulled a 755 off this route in order to put it on the Cambridge-Ipswich route?
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F Great Eastern
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From what I have heard, we're likely to see a token 755 on a few routes over the coming weeks in order to generate good PR to give the impression that the roll-out is continuing at pace and is on time.
The problem with Greater Anglia is they're obsessed with window dressing and looking good, rather than being good.
The problem with Greater Anglia is they're obsessed with window dressing and looking good, rather than being good.
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So sampled 755412 from Bury St Edmunds at 09:27 to Ipswich and returned 10:20, very impressive. A little disappointed that it remained on diesel throughout, but hopefully electric use will come in eventually.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/CBG/2019-11-26/0959 says that the 09:59 arrival from Norwich was cancelled. I was on it, and it definitely ran. It looks like it returned as the 10:10 back to Norwich.
Interesting. I caught the 09:17 Great Northern from Ely, and the departure boards there were showing the train you quote (09:38 from Ely) as cancelled. That's why I tried to follow its diagram on RealTimeTrains, and got the four cancellations I originally quoted.
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Was on 1035 from Stowmarket to Cambridge this morning , the only station it didn't stop at was Kennett
This is it arriving at Stowmarket on diesel power
This is it arriving at Stowmarket on diesel power
The BBC seems to have got hold of the issues with the Ipswich to Cambridge line.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-50557197
This quote from GA puzzled me
"Given the many advantages of the new trains over our existing older trains, we considered it was best not to hold up the roll-out for one system and one supplier,"
Can someone tell me what this means in plain English!
and can someone explain (again) why they don't seem to be running with electric Ipswich to Stowmarket!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-50557197
This quote from GA puzzled me
"Given the many advantages of the new trains over our existing older trains, we considered it was best not to hold up the roll-out for one system and one supplier,"
Can someone tell me what this means in plain English!
and can someone explain (again) why they don't seem to be running with electric Ipswich to Stowmarket!
Essentially, it's saying the trains have lots of advantages over the older trains, but it sounds like they've been having problems with one system on the train (believe it's ASDO), so rather than waiting for that to be fixed, they've introduced the trains anyway. Maybe because the 'advantages' will outshine the singular problem.
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Which, being cynical, was probably the intention.
To quote Johan Cruyff “If I had wanted you to understand, I would have explained it better.”
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NR says no probably.
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Are they actually using the Bi-Mode capability at all? I don't Norwich - Cambridge is either?
F Great Eastern
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As stated previously, if we are talking about the camera/DOO system, then this same product is currently being used by Bombardier and Siemens amongst others in other UK modern rolling stock with no issue and is working fine in thousands of vehiclkes, so I would suggest that the product cannot be solely to blame here because if it was then you would have this issue up and down the country, but it doesn't happen. The only thing is that is different is this is Stadler's first go at a UK train so they don't have the experience that the other operators for of using such systems and integrating them for the UK System.,
The fact that Stadler is bringing a lot of suppliers in and and buying a lot of stuff from third parties rather than doing it in-house, is a decision that they have to take responsibility for and also take responsibility for the integration of such systems and the relationship between them and their suppliers. This always adds complexity since often when something goes wrong it's always a temptation to point fingers at each other because of the frustrations that things don't work how they want them to but it's also a distraction from what matters. Abellio have also spent the last few months blaming everything but themselves, a classic example was the letter about the Sudbury line a few months ago, which was pretty breathtaking.
The inexperience of the GA bid team and senior management in making hopelessly optimistic predictions for entry into service for a manufacturer who has never built stock for the UK to UK regulations, really shows up here and that's before we get onto some of the insiders comments about Abellio's supplier relationships that we've seen on here before.
dk1
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Not yet.